Re: Weakest Marvel or DC character that can physically beat Bang
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the first is definitely some sort of translated version of the second.“Recurring” is a weirdly loose synonym for “countless”, “fleeting” for “momentary” etc
Carv, how can we rely on statement evidence when the statement is poorly translated garbage?
Flashy Flash as far as I know doesn't "shoot" anything; all of his attacks are punches, kicks, and sword slashes. The "flashes" in this context are completely physical attacks. I haven't read much of later OPM but I'm pretty sure this is the case. Maybe someone who is more up to date has something indicating otherwise?
Look, the forum has enough issues with English as it is - infinite crossroads, cleaving to Galactus ' ship, juggling suns, bring carried at lightspeed - without the added complication of a completely different language. I didn't even have to look hard for those two scans; they're both posted by Carv.
As it stands, it's his only proof Flashimologocal Flashitude (or whatever his name is) is supposedly FTL. It's shit proof, and shit logic is then being used (i.e. power scaling) to make Bang MFTL.
I think the only confirmed lightspeed / near-lightspeed feat in the OPM manga is when Saitama was facing away from a mirror and then turned around so fast that he could still see the back of his head in the mirror. Flashy Flash has tried to tag / hit / outrun Saitama on multiple occasions but has been utterly humiliated every time.
Bang was able to avoid being hit by an angry Saitama, though, which is quite impressive:
True, the mosquito was quite impressive. Much more so than the mosquito lady who almost destroyed a whole city (and Genos) but didn't pose any challenge to Saitama.
Which has never been said to have been any different to real world mosquitoes. So we don't give it special attributes.
Just like if Wolverine lifts a car in comics - we don't say Marvel cars are made of superlight alloys and weigh 10kg, we say Logan is strong.
If Saitama is fast enough to turn around and see the back of his head in a mirror, we don't say that mirror was special, or the speed of light is slower or anything like that.
And so, we don't say that mosquito is special.
Moreover, we don't powerscale. Deathstroke has hit Flash before. We don't give him Wally's fastest feats.
So? Saitama is lightspeed fast, or at the very least nearly so, and strong enough to destroy a planet or more. His struggle against the mosquito clearly showed him moving faster than the eye can see and his attacks shook the entire neighborhood. Either the mosquito had massive levels of superspeed and durability, or Saitama's attacks (even the air pressure) just magically happened to miss the mosquito. We don't know which. But in the Bang "fight", we can clearly see that "magical miss" was not the case there; instead, Bang simply avoided Saitama's hit using superspeed. As a master martial artist he can read his opponents body language and intentions so this doesn't mean he's faster than Saitama. But ridiculously fast, nevertheless.
Or Saitama was holding back (as he always does) - without saying his special attacks ('Normal punch'), he's not doing anything out of the ordinary for him.
Morever, your statements are contradictory. You say Bang avoided them with superspeed - then said he used body reading etc. The two aren't necessarily compatible, to the point it is frankly, unusable.
And that again, presupposes power scaling. Deathstroke has tagged Wally, Wally who is faster than sound, light, the Speedforce itself - as per your 'logic', Deathstroke is either faster than that, or has body reading skills enabling him to hit Wally. Doesn't mean he's faster than Flash, but ridiculously fast, nevertheless. How fast is Deathstroke? Batman? Weather Wizard (and all of Flash's human level rogues)?
The depiction shows movement faster than the eye can see. You can stubbornly ignore that if you want but anyone else can check the scenes and verify this themselves.
I'm not using power scaling. I'm not giving Flashy Flash's feats to Bang. I'm giving Bang's feats to Bang.
You are giving Saitama's feats to Bang, lol. Let's quote you, and let me add my sentence. Spot the difference!
"I think the only confirmed speed feat in the Flash Forward storyline is when Wally West is faster than the Speedforce. WW has tried to tag/hit/outrun WW on multiple occasions but has been utterly humiliated every time.
Batman/Deathstroke was able to hit an angry Flash, though, which is quite impressive".
Well, if we indeed *do* use power scaling, then Bang *is* MFTL *and* can read his opponent's body language and intentions. He'd stomp Magik and Spot and Spider-Man with ease in a physical fight.
But how can he read Magik if she is in another Dimension? Spot? Does he have dimensional reading powers that I, as a massive fan of the OPM manga AND anime, do not know about?
Edit: nearly missed this. No, with powerscaling on (which you are trying to now twist onto me), Spidey would annihilate Bang.
FTR, I am NOT saying powerscaling is on. Bang's feats are his own, and we look at them on their own two feat. Does he have any clearcut speed feats (with numbers) to suggest he can tangle with even low level speedsters?
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