Originally posted by Scoobless
"The super-soldiers are enhanced with plasma-absorption armor, so that nearly all energy weapons directed against them have no effect."
The warriors can remain conscious for up to 10 minutes after being deprived of oxygen. Aside from their short lifespan, they have one known weakness: an energy weapon developed by Earth
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Anyway...good fight actually, I thought t'd be a lot shorter.
Didn't that energy weapon take years to develop or something? I know it was a big long freaking process, which not everyone would have access to.
Also... I hate to break it to you JP, but Kenshin is not near 100mph foot speed... I don't think anyone's pointed this out yet, but at least 3 guys with speed greater than or equal to Kenshin's were gunned down by a single guy with a gattling gun. Primitive gattling gun. No training or anything, just a normal guy.
Also... The sword is far from unbreakable. It's simply metal. The reason it doesn't ever break is Kenshin's precise, clean strokes, not any magic properties. Another handicap, Kenshin carries a reverse bladed sword. The edge is inverted. (on the back of the sword, rather than where the normal edge is. It's because he's an uber-pacifist now) He's hitting with a blunt piece of metal, not an actual blade.
Sorry, I don't mean to argue for Scoob, necessarily, but it seems people are just taking JP's words as true, when he's putting Kenshin a vast amount above his actual limitations. He's insanely skilled, and at least peak human for agility, balance, coordination, and such, but that's it. Not into the superhuman range at all.
My vote goes to Scoob, mostly for the reasons above. Kenshin's a good pick, but you didn't incorporate much other speed and strength. And Scoob's guy is, as always, nigh-on unstoppable.
Originally posted by Dizzle
Also... The sword is far from unbreakable. It's simply metal. The reason it doesn't ever break is Kenshin's precise, clean strokes, not any magic properties. Another handicap, Kenshin carries a reverse bladed sword. The edge is inverted. (on the back of the sword, rather than where the normal edge is. It's because he's an uber-pacifist now) He's hitting with a blunt piece of metal, not an actual blade.
well i didn't bring any of this up because.... well.... i didn't know about any of it
tx to Dizz for the info update
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Originally posted by DigiMark007
Nigh-on unstoppable Dizzle? Pfftt! Sure, it's a tough combo, but I think there's 3-4 others just as good. Don't give him all that credit just yet...make him earn it.Not keeping an accurate count right now, but even with the 2 votes, Scoob's winning quite easily.
I meant by JP's offensive capabilities. Fireballs, electricity, and a blunt sword aren't doing much.
Kenshin is superspeed.
He actually is far greater than 100 mph speed.
He was dumbed down alot for this fight.
Those guys were not equal to kenshin's speed, he was not wanting to use the true speed of the baltousai for fear that he would revbert rto his old ways of killing.
He is a pacifist, but he is also very very fast. He moves so fast he is invisible.
For the human body to do this, it would have to move at least several hundreds of miles per hour.
A bullet is small yet, it moves at 700 mph(it still leaves a vapor trail if your eyes are as keen as a snipers'.
The human body is much much bigger than a bullet and would have move at much greater speeds to be invisible.
Even people like sano who has inhanced human reflexes and speed while swinging his huge sword could not see kenshin when kenshin stood there til the last second,letting sano's blade near touch him before leaping over sano's head at godlike(faster than sound) speed and standing on the edge of his blade tip.
Kenshin is so fast he is invisible even to people far off.
Take it that a tennis serve comes in at 110 mph and it is easily visible(a tennis ball is real small).
The human body is way way bigger and it would take far far far far far greater speeds than 100 mph for the human body to be invisible in movement.
Anybody who knows physics, human kinetics, or the laws of speed knows that.
Kenshin is actually about right where I put him at.
Dizzle, you need to read this post.
Originally posted by jplatinum
Kenshin is superspeed.
He actually is far greater than 100 mph speed.
He was dumbed down alot for this fight.
Those guys were not equal to kenshin's speed, he was not wanting to use the true speed of the baltousai for fear that he would revbert rto his old ways of killing.
He is a pacifist, but he is also very very fast. He moves so fast he is invisible.
For the human body to do this, it would have to move at least several hundreds of miles per hour.
A bullet is small yet, it moves at 700 mph(it still leaves a vapor trail if your eyes are as keen as a snipers'.
The human body is much much bigger than a bullet and would have move at much greater speeds to be invisible.
Even people like sano who has inhanced human reflexes and speed while swinging his huge sword could not see kenshin when kenshin stood there til the last second,letting sano's blade near touch him before leaping over sano's head at godlike(faster than sound) speed and standing on the edge of his blade tip.Kenshin is so fast he is invisible even to people far off.
Take it that a tennis serve comes in at 110 mph and it is easily visible(a tennis ball is real small).
The human body is way way bigger and it would take far far far far far greater speeds than 100 mph for the human body to be invisible in movement.Anybody who knows physics, human kinetics, or the laws of speed knows that.
Kenshin is actually about right where I put him at.
Dizzle, you need to read this post.
Kenshin can't vibrate invisible, and he can't maintain blurrish speeds with anything but his sword. And he can't run in a straight line fast enough to be invisible either. I'm not gonna get into it too much, but Kenshin would barely manage dodging bullets.
In JP's defense, the Reverse Blade Sword, when wielded effectively is an asset rather than a hinderance. It presents a broader surface to block with and doesn't notch it's edge to do so. It's also less likely to break, like curved armor surfaces. The moves usen to slash with what would normally be the back of the blade are a total mind-f*#& to other swordsman, confusing the heck out of his opponents when he does go for a lethal attack, Only a master such as Kenshin or his peers could use such a thing well mind you, but it's not just a blunt sword.
OTOH, I've yet to hear tactics from JP to really convince me that Kirbylactus can overcome Scarlet Cyborg lightsaber defense. You cant cross swords with plasma without something more than steel.
I'm not voting with so much time left in the match, so come on guys, lets take this up a notch. Let's hear more back and forth moves and less feat lists. Surprise me. Wow me.
wow you.......ok... more tactics
as we start on opposite ends of a large building it's a safe bet to assume both characters would go into that building looking for the other. \as soon as SC enters he starts slicing and blasting through support walls and pillars, using his spider sense and military demolitions training to know how much damage to do to stay just on the safe side of a possible collapse..... moving through the lower regions of the building SC continues this strategy (avoiding confrontation - again using spider sense to stay undetected) when the building is only just standing SC waits until Kirby moves closer to the centre, then he exits the structure.... moves twenty feet or so away and begins blasting the hell out of the remaining load bearing walls while circling the building..... as it crumbles and collapses onto Kirbilactus SC stays at a safe distance and laughs.... HA HA HA
no direct confrontation there.... but a decent strategy that would cripple or kill JP's not-that-strong amalgam
Originally posted by DizzleI said this many times before the tourmy statred because everyone was talking about Kenshin's greatness I was thinking about picking him but decided to go a diffrent way becuase he really doesn't help thta much besides allowing to use a sword better which there are tons of guys with better stats that can do that.
Didn't that energy weapon take years to develop or something? I know it was a big long freaking process, which not everyone would have access to.Also... I hate to break it to you JP, but Kenshin is not near 100mph foot speed... I don't think anyone's pointed this out yet, but at least 3 guys with speed greater than or equal to Kenshin's were gunned down by a single guy with a gattling gun. Primitive gattling gun. No training or anything, just a normal guy.
Also... The sword is far from unbreakable. It's simply metal. The reason it doesn't ever break is Kenshin's precise, clean strokes, not any magic properties. Another handicap, Kenshin carries a reverse bladed sword. The edge is inverted. (on the back of the sword, rather than where the normal edge is. It's because he's an uber-pacifist now) He's hitting with a blunt piece of metal, not an actual blade.
Sorry, I don't mean to argue for Scoob, necessarily, but it seems people are just taking JP's words as true, when he's putting Kenshin a vast amount above his actual limitations. He's insanely skilled, and at least peak human for agility, balance, coordination, and such, but that's it. Not into the superhuman range at all.
My vote goes to Scoob, mostly for the reasons above. Kenshin's a good pick, but you didn't incorporate much other speed and strength. And Scoob's guy is, as always, nigh-on unstoppable.
Originally posted by Laminator_X
In JP's defense, the Reverse Blade Sword, when wielded effectively is an asset rather than a hinderance. It presents a broader surface to block with and doesn't notch it's edge to do so. It's also less likely to break, like curved armor surfaces. The moves usen to slash with what would normally be the back of the blade are a total mind-f*#& to other swordsman, confusing the heck out of his opponents when he does go for a lethal attack, Only a master such as Kenshin or his peers could use such a thing [b]well mind you, but it's not just a blunt sword.OTOH, I've yet to hear tactics from JP to really convince me that Kirbylactus can overcome Scarlet Cyborg lightsaber defense. You cant cross swords with plasma without something more than steel.
I'm not voting with so much time left in the match, so come on guys, lets take this up a notch. Let's hear more back and forth moves and less feat lists. Surprise me. Wow me. [/B]
well in jp's defense he could argue..and argue successfully that he really doesn't have to cross swords... obi dispatched grevious at the hands... klenshin IMO is a far superior swordsmen than obi so he's more than capible... lui kang being an energy/chi wielding warrior, he could power up his weapon in a sense (as trunks did in dbz) and this would give him the sufficient amount of power to cut through grevious' armor... it's also of note than Batman beyond dodged the hell out of that expert swordsman-lady (who has a sword that can seemingly cut through anything) and that was when terry was green...now with kenshins experience he can easily dodge and even possibly parry (using lui's energy to engulf the sword and match blades with the lightsabers if needed... all he needs to do is remove one or two arms which are in his capablities to do, then attack with an electro shock batarang, or explosive batarang at scarlet's torso.... end of the fight right there.
Damn, jinzin.
You sounded like a genius just know.
I couldn't have said it better.
Plus,
my amalgam's fighting skill is enough so that he could fight with a sword while also, relying on occasional kicks and sweeps and punches, something scoob can't do, or at least not anywhere near as well as the combined fighting skill of liu kang(the choosen one), kenshin(the man of legend) and , batman beyond(the dark night jr.)
Scoob goes down no matter how you slice it.
He goes down hard.
Originally posted by jinzin
well in jp's defense he could argue..and argue successfully that he really doesn't have to cross swords... obi dispatched grevious at the hands... klenshin IMO is a far superior swordsmen than obi so he's more than capible... lui kang being an energy/chi wielding warrior, he could power up his weapon in a sense (as trunks did in dbz) and this would give him the sufficient amount of power to cut through grevious' armor... it's also of note than Batman beyond dodged the hell out of that expert swordsman-lady (who has a sword that can seemingly cut through anything) and that was when terry was green...now with kenshins experience he can easily dodge and even possibly parry (using lui's energy to engulf the sword and match blades with the lightsabers if needed... all he needs to do is remove one or two arms which are in his capablities to do, then attack with an electro shock batarang, or explosive batarang at scarlet's torso.... end of the fight right there.
this might work if it was just Grievous he was fighting.... not enhanced speed Grievous + spider sense + multiple longer range weapons + ultra tough body armour
Kirbilactus isn't getting within 20 feet of Scarlet without taking a hit from something