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Telepathic Battle: Martian Manhunter vs. Professor Charles Xavier
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Telepathic Battle: Martian Manhunter vs. Professor Charles Xavier
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Gilgamesh
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I agree with Eleven, even though i can't say i know a lot about MM both characters seem to be at least comparable in terms of psychic powers, however, MM might have the edge in terms of experience and abilities.

About that "nobody over the age of 12 loves the JLA", its funny how every comic book store or convention i ever went to always say that DC aims at an older audience, while Marvel, even though their trying to fix their Fisher Price image with the new Marvel Knights and MAX series, which are excellent btw, aim at a younger audience. I know very few comic book fans over the age of 21 who are huge Marvel fans, they either like both or prefer DC.

I myself am 26 and am not a fan boy of either company, im a fan of certain characters. Im glad though that Marvel started those two "more mature" series i mentioned above, through them i can revisit old favorites of mine that i just left behind gradually as i grew older.

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DC Fanboys are fighting a losing battle here. Just take a look at the polls. Martian Manhunter's telepathy is probaly on par with Marvel Boy from the New Warriors. ^__^


Just because we know Manhunter is better doesn't make us fanboys. Would we be DC fanboys if we said Superman could beat Spiderman?

And polls don't mean anything. A million people who don't know anything could vote the wrong way, while only one person has enough knowledge to vote correctly.

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Did EVERYONE completely ignore my argument at the beginning at the thread?

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In terms of raw power, xavier has so much. MM has always been afraid to go beyond mind probes. Sure, he's powerful but were' talking about XAVIER here. The guy who pretty much demolished the marvel universe as onlaught. Think about it, this guy gets imprisoned the shadow king, contacted Lilandra millions of light years away, held a lot of people in a catatonic state within a five block radius (x-men versus avengers), and can scan multiple minds globally.

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Did EVERYONE completely ignore my argument at the beginning at the thread?

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You know damn well they did, lol.


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With the Martian race having evolved out of a predominantly nomadic race of creatures, telepathy was their natural means of communication which over the centuries the Martians were able to craft into a highly effective state, coming known to be the most adept psions in the cosmos. Now, being the last of his kind, J'onn's mind is often regarded as being the most adept in all of the universe, though technically there are minds greater in power than his (Hector Hammond for example) there is no one that more skilled in the arts of the mind than he. Seen as a premier hero all over the world, beings from all over the cosmos revere the Martian for his psionic abilities and knowledge, making him the foremost authority on the powers of the mind anywhere.

Requiring little to no effort to read the thoughts of those around him, only those of shielded minds can hide their thinking from the Martian, as he can reason through even those from an insane man (though those of an advanced state of insanity such as the Joker are far too erratic for him). Skilled in the practice of sorting through memories and associated thoughts related to emotions, he can reason though the minds of most anyone from any background, language, or race as he can even communicate typically with completely unknown entities. As long as a source has a mind, no matter how bizarrely sentient, J'onn can find some means to make at least a basic contact.

Having organized his mind into a Mental Mansion, he has attempted to put a manifested form to his own mind in order to be able to organize his own mind all the better. Essentially now, J'onn's mind is divided in a mansion-like structure, with each identity he has having its own room, one full of memories and thoughts and emotions, that to assume all he needs to do is to open that door and the room. At the core of this Mental Mansion is the Library in the Cellar, where all of his own personal memories are stored.


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Did EVERYONE completely ignore my argument at the beginning at the thread?

mad


I didn't.

Great cartoon DarkCrawler. Oh and Draco, I want that sig SOOOOO bad.

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Alright. I'll admit that MM has beter range than Xavier currently, but that's because Magneto took steps to hinder Charles' ability to use his telepathy globally by screwing with the earths magnetic field. In close quarter psychic combat, one on one, Charles is unstoppable. Shadow King draws on the negative psychic energy of the entire PLANET and Charles beat him. I don't care if he had to struggle, he BEAT him. Xavier has mentally frozen and simultaneously manipulated the memories of a village of three hundred. Recently, Charles took on and even overpowered the Exemplar Bedlam, who is the avatar of the God of Mind and Madness and whose telepathy could penetrate Juggernaut's helmet. In a close confrontation Xavier can win.

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Interesting

Xaiver is only limited on Earth because of Magneto messing with EM field of the planet but off-world he has pulled off stuns like this.

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He did all of this while sitting on an orbiting moon.

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This will probably hurt Xaviers case more then help it...but even though Mags screwed with the Earths magnetic field Xavier still manages to break through Exodus's static around Avalon for a few seconds, he does this while the entire astral plane is being screwed up due to the fight between Exodus and Holocaust...he also does this from his office without the aid of Cerebro or any other device(Cerebro is offline)...Avalon is situated in space..


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Point being he has range...just not sure if it's MM range...

BTW Isn't Cassandra Nova the Prime example of what Xavier's telepathy would be like if he doesn't hold back? She manifested her telepathy on the physical plane...beat up Gladiator and caused him to wet his pants...

My other point being I don't think Xavier would go down without a putting up a good fight...regardless of MM's heritage...


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What is so odd about Manhuner, is that he can alter his brain. his actual brain, for added affects and thingys. He turned his mind into the choas of the joker, just to beat the jokers maze. If i am remembering correctly. Xavier gets all freaky with wierd minds and such. I"m sure A gleaming of this would let MM know how to beat PX. but, Prox could also make MM Think he was on fire and it would all be over. It deponds on who's will is stronger.


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MM owns him no expression

His telepathic powers >>>>>>>> Prof's powers yes


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Originally posted by ExodusCloak
This will probably hurt Xaviers case more then help it...but even though Mags screwed with the Earths magnetic field Xavier still manages to break through Exodus's static around Avalon for a few seconds, he does this while the entire astral plane is being screwed up due to the fight between Exodus and Holocaust...he also does this from his office without the aid of Cerebro or any other device(Cerebro is offline)...Avalon is situated in space..


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Point being he has range...just not sure if it's MM range...

BTW Isn't Cassandra Nova the Prime example of what Xavier's telepathy would be like if he doesn't hold back? She manifested her telepathy on the physical plane...beat up Gladiator and caused him to wet his pants...

My other point being I don't think Xavier would go down without a putting up a good fight...regardless of MM's heritage...
Cassie can basically access the full spectrum of abilities the person's genome grants them. Xavier has all the abilities that Cassandra Nova showed in his genetic potential, but they are latent.


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Cassie can basically access the full spectrum of abilities the person's genome grants them. Xavier has all the abilities that Cassandra Nova showed in his genetic potential, but they are latent.


Ah...that makes sense...kind like Emma's latent telekinesis...


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Xavier. J'onn makes him work hard for it though.

As good as MM is, Xavier is a damn telepathic beast.

One-on-one, Xavier defeats Martian Manhunter.


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Ooooh. I remember this thread.

Seriously though:

Spider-Man: Good Lord! Count Nefaria is more than 1000 miles away. Who could possibly read his mind for the deactivation codes of this nuclear bomb?

Charles Xavier: Hold on! I'll wheel myself back to the mansion and get Cerebro!

MM: 109738....


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Originally posted by Draco69
Ooooh. I remember this thread.

Seriously though:

Spider-Man: Good Lord! Count Nefaria is more than 1000 miles away. Who could possibly read his mind for the deactivation codes of this nuclear bomb?

Charles Xavier: Hold on! I'll wheel myself back to the mansion and get Cerebro!

MM: 109738....


That's a bit biased... erm

Xavier could do it. Rather easily, too. He's done far greater.


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Originally posted by Draco69
Ooooh. I remember this thread.

Seriously though:

Spider-Man: Good Lord! Count Nefaria is more than 1000 miles away. Who could possibly read his mind for the deactivation codes of this nuclear bomb?

Charles Xavier: Hold on! I'll wheel myself back to the mansion and get Cerebro!

MM: 109738....


Your confusing range with power.

Think about with only half his power mental powers, Xaiver has enter the sub-atomic doorway to the Mirco-verse.

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Your confusing range with power.

Think about with only half his power mental powers, Xaiver has enter the sub-atomic doorway to the Mirco-verse.


MM has managed to penetrate the Overmind of Heaven. A feat only the Great Evil Beast has done...


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