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Igniz
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Originally posted by Juntai
I suppose you didn't read the scan.

"In the beginning there was many, a multiversal infinitude." = Infinite multiverse. Among dozens of other mentions of it in the story.

Infinite multiverse replicated across infinity = Infinite Multiverse replicated across infinity.

If the last 6 years of comics taught us anything, it's that the single universe was the anomaly, not the other way around. This is why Infinite Crisis and Final Crisis eventually happened to complete the trillogy and with them the rebirth of the multiverse.


Wait wasn't this the original scene in COIE?

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/...vebeenonebe.jpg

"A multiverse that should have been one, became many." big grin

Still proves my point about the each part weaker than the whole. roll eyes (sarcastic)


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Originally posted by zopzop
Here's Eternity deadly serious and look how it turns out :
http://www.ferretpress.com/blog/wp-...1/Strange03.jpg
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AM got this.


That can be taken as Universal Eternity.I kind a think Universal and Multiversal Eternity are kinda like the way Thanos and his Thanosi clone works.You can try to lowball Thanos w/ the getting beaten by Squirrel Girl scene but someone will say that it was a Thanosi SG beat.Besides, the concept of Multiversal Eternity was introduced in FFAnnual 2001.Multi-Eternity's power was shown in Defenders Vol 3 #3(2003) were Dormammu(Using Multi-Eternity's power under circumstances) was able to destroy and recreate the entire Marvel Multiverse in a short period of time.Faster than what Anti-Monitor was doing.

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Originally posted by Galan007
This also makes me chuckle:

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So Eternity's most powerful attack can destroy.... A planet. Heh.


That was Marvel The End.And Thanos had the Heart of the Infinite.I don't see any lowshowing in there for Eternity if Thanos himself can beat the one above him who happens to be Living Tribunal(Omniversal). cool


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Originally posted by cdtm
Eternity.

COIE Anti Monitor was amped from all the universes he destroyed, expanding his anti matter territory and growing in power, but that's not his base levels.
In 2005, by the time this thread was made, the only Antimonitor we were introduced to was as he was in Crisis on Infinite Earths, and only after already demolishing most of the multiverse.


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Originally posted by Igniz
That can be taken as Universal Eternity.I kind a think Universal and Multiversal Eternity are kinda like the way Thanos and his Thanosi clone works.You can try to lowball Thanos w/ the getting beaten by Squirrel Girl scene but someone will say that it was a Thanosi SG beat.Besides, the concept of Multiversal Eternity was introduced in FFAnnual 2001.Multi-Eternity's power was shown in Defenders Vol 3 #3(2003) were Dormammu(Using Multi-Eternity's power under circumstances) was able to destroy and recreate the entire Marvel Multiverse in a short period of time.Faster than what Anti-Monitor was doing.
Oh, multiversal eternity didn't exist until then?


Because I believe these are from the 70s -
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/158...opysh4.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/360...ulti30.jpg.html

And the newer Dormammu arc-
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/360...multi5.jpg.html
Eternity even remembers it.


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Anti-Monitor jumps Eternity in a parking lot at night and takes his wallet.


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Originally posted by Igniz
Still proves my point about the each part weaker than the whole. roll eyes (sarcastic)
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Originally posted by Galan007
"This is a story not of a universe--but a multiverse. Where universes and planets such as earth were replicated and mirrored across a vibrating, infinite plane":

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So per 52 (the most current info on the subject) all of the universes in the original multiverse were equal. "Replicated and mirrored."

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That was Marvel The End.And Thanos had the Heart of the Infinite.I don't see any lowshowing in there for Eternity if Thanos himself can beat the one above him who happens to be Living Tribunal(Omniversal). cool
What are you talking about? I never said it was a low showing because Eternity couldn't beat Thanos /w/ THOTI. It was a low showing because "ALL the righteous fury Eternity could muster" was only responsible for planetary destruction... A herald-level feat.


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I thought Eternity was suppose to be a concept being similar to Vertigo DC's " The Endless". He is pretty much reverted as a humanoid.

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Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
At that point in time, Eternity was suposed to represent the totality of universe; every humanoid, alien, abstract, power source, the combined psionic power, willpower, physical power, ect, ect, of every being in the universe...

Eternity was supposed to be pretty much supreme, so how the hell can The Ancient One overwhelm it in a psychological battle!? Or any kind of battle for that matter!??

The PIS was immensely strong in this one...

How about you try reading the whole issue not that one scan. They say what Eternity represented in that issue, and it was not really that. Under that writer, he the sum of life and "archetypal man", and his power was dependent on humanity. So he was conceived as quite a different type of being than at other times. And the ancient one was one with Eternity so it was like him battling himself. At the end of the issue the ancient one even takes the form of eternity.


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Originally posted by King Kandy
How about you try reading the whole issue not that one scan. They say what Eternity represented in that issue, and it was not really that. Under that writer, he the sum of life and "archetypal man", and his power was dependent on humanity.
Eh?

From that very same issue:

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I respect you as one of the better posters on these forums, but dude let's face it, Eternity is full of suck. sad


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Originally posted by Juntai
Oh, multiversal eternity didn't exist until then?


Because I believe these are from the 70s -
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/158...opysh4.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/360...ulti30.jpg.html

And the newer Dormammu arc-
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/360...multi5.jpg.html
Eternity even remembers it.


Never said Multi-Eternity didn't exist.I just said his concept was introduced in FFAnnual 2001 to Reed Richards.That's were he is actually shown and described.And the first scan you put up can be taken as Multi-Eternity acting through his Universal avatar.After all, this are Abstracts were talking about.

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Originally posted by Galan007
What are you talking about? I never said it was a low showing because Eternity couldn't beat Thanos /w/ THOTI. It was a low showing because "ALL the righteous fury Eternity could muster" was only responsible for planetary destruction... A herald-level feat.


Oh so destroying and recreating the entire Marvel Multiverse can be taken as a herald level feat then?

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What did Dr.Strange said would happen if Dormammu had Eternity's power?

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That's Dormammu destroying and recreating the entire Marvel Multiverse using ME's "Herald Level" power big grin

Still faster than Anti-Monitor's shenanigans cool


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^ Good. God.

I was only pointing out the sheer hilarity in the specific scene I posted. Don't get so defensive.


However, the funny part about the instance you just posted is that Dormammu and Umar alone were still able to pwn Eternity:

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Eh?

From that very same issue:

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That's exactly what I was talking about. He advanced humanity to advance himself, and their effect upon him grew. Like I said, his power was dependent on humanity (even though he predated them).


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He advanced humanity to advance himself, and their effect upon him grew.
= ALL that was stated.

And Eternity still stated that he embodied the sum total of the universe.


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Why is everybody using "Multi-Eternity" to describe 616 Eternity?


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Originally posted by Galan007
^ Good. God.

I was only pointing out the sheer hilarity in the specific scene I posted. Don't get so defensive.


However, the funny part about the instance you just posted is that Dormammu and Umar alone were still able to pwn Eternity:

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Not being defensive.Its just that your attempt on lowballing isn't gonna get you anywherebig grin And if you're gonna use Dormammu and Umar, at least show the whole story next time.There was a shift in the cosmic axis that time as shown in this scan.That's why Dormammu and Umar defeated 616 Eternity.

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Now what did Dormammu needed to accomplish his goal?

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In other words, Dormammu needed a lot of things to accomplish his goal.And whose power did Dormammu used to recreate everything in the multiversecool ?

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Why is everybody using "Multi-Eternity" to describe 616 Eternity?


Because a lot of people know that Anti-Monitor's attempt to destroy and recreate everything in the DC Multiverse came short by 5 Universes.Not to mention it took him many issues and he still failed upon doing it.Unlike the instant were Dormammu used ME"s power to recreate the entire Marvel Multiverse only took him 1 issue to do it.If both characters are taken into their full power, Anti-Monitor would look like a ranked amateur compared to Multi-Eternity.So they lowball ME by using 616 Eternity. sad


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Not being defensive.Its just that your attempt on lowballing isn't gonna get you anywherebig grin And if you're gonna use Dormammu and Umar, at least show the whole story next time.There was a shift in the cosmic axis that time as shown in this scan.That's why Dormammu and Umar defeated 616 Eternity.

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Now what did Dormammu needed to accomplish his goal?

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In other words, Dormammu needed a lot of things to accomplish his goal.And whose power did Dormammu used to recreate everything in the multiversecool ?



Because a lot of people know that Anti-Monitor's attempt to destroy and recreate everything in the DC Multiverse came short by 5 Universes.Not to mention it took him many issues and he still failed upon doing it.Unlike the instant were Dormammu used ME"s power to recreate the entire Marvel Multiverse only took him 1 issue to do it.If both characters are taken into their full power, Anti-Monitor would look like a ranked amateur compared to Multi-Eternity.So they lowball ME by using 616 Eternity. sad
Owned.


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Anti-Monitor would look like a ranked amateur compared to Multi-Eternity.So they lowball ME by using 616 Eternity. sad


What I mean is 616 Eternity is what people would consider a "Multi-Eternity", since all divergent universes stem from the 616 reality. Multi-Eternity isn't a character that exists separate from 616 Eternity. They're the same thing.


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Originally posted by Igniz
Not being defensive.Its just that your attempt on lowballing isn't gonna get you anywherebig grin And if you're gonna use Dormammu and Umar, at least show the whole story next time.There was a shift in the cosmic axis that time as shown in this scan.That's why Dormammu and Umar defeated 616 Eternity.

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Now what did Dormammu needed to accomplish his goal?

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In other words, Dormammu needed a lot of things to accomplish his goal.And whose power did Dormammu used to recreate everything in the multiversecool ?
Lmao. I think it literally upsets you when people talk bad about Eternity. laughing out loud

Learn to tell the difference between serious discussions, and humor. The serious discussion took place when I posted info on the DC multiverse (which you selectively ignored.) The humor took place when I posted the Eternity scans. wink


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