The hammer that infact adds nothing to thor's game because he can do everything without it that he can do with.
If she'd had the bracelets she might of lasted for a while. As it is she gets flat out dominated by someone with vastly better strength feats. Look at how supes has owned her before. Thor isnt on supes' physical level but hes alot closer than diana.
Idk about Thor being the strongest, but you are right relatively they are all pretty close. His strength certainly isn't that much greater than hers that it should make the difference here. Very close match really.
It's almost as if you and Quan are bizarre, alternate-dimension versions of each other...
Each has very opposite views on a number of things (especially concerning Thor vs. WW), and each has certain contextual/perceptual errors that are almost so ZOMG-funny, I'd like to see the two of you locked in a room together, debating, just to watch it and eat popcorn... It'd be one of the funniest things in entertainment, period.
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It isn't a case of "what would happen in the comics" in the sense of "who's more popular/is expected to win", due to fanboism, but rather "what would happen as contextually related in comics, but in a more serious setting". Quan is correct on some salient points: Thor can, and has, displayed enough ability to fight/battle beings with superspeed that WW's edge in flight/speed is *not* a dominating force; conversly, despite Quan's (and others') mistaken belief, Thor and WW are in not only the same league in strength/general resiliance, they are in the same relative grouping. He's got the edge in terms of being able to play the "god-card" (and utilize certain power *without* having to have Mjolner), and WW is edging him in speed/flight, and having better finesse in terms of skill/combat prowess.
Any other view swaying too far from a general split (5/10, 6/10, or so, favoring either one) is simply ignoring the abilities/feats *both* have demonstrated over time. Thor *can* get wins -- more than you are willing to acknowledge -- and WW certainly can get wins -- which many posters who are stating otherwise are simply doing so from general ignorance of the character -- but neither will have a stomp, or even a solid majority, over the other in a battle like this.
I went with Thor for a general split, but I could also see the arguement for Diana getting the split-majority. But no solids and/or stomps, *for either of them*...
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While not the kind of split I gave, I could go with this, contextually, with the caveat that WW's 3 wins would likely be OMGWTF wins due to Thor's underestimating her and her working him like he's (non-amped/ascended) Hercules.
Funny enough, this is also roughly the "split" I gave them fighting with their respective weapons, with one or two "stalemates" resulting in mutual deaths...
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^ no.
Comparable strength and equal strength are two completely different things. The difference in strength is akin to me and Brock Lesnar... the hundred or so pounds more he can lift than me may not seem like a whole lot, but if we trade punches, it's a guarantee i drop first.
I kinda agree. A martial arts expert, special forces individual, or world class boxer might be able to drop Lesnar with one punch, yet still be a lot weaker, strength-wise.
I get your point, I really do; but don't always assume it could turn out that way.
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