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Dinalfos
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Iron Man k.o'd a blinded, stunned Hulk with everything he had. He also k.o'd and (nearly killed) himself.

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Iron Man k.o'd a blinded, stunned Hulk with everything he had. He also k.o'd and (nearly killed) himself.

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Nope, it was very on-topic. It had a purpose of promoting Hulk's endurance over Ironman's strength.

And Hulk wins this.


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Iron Man k.o'd a blinded, stunned Hulk with everything he had. He also k.o'd and (nearly killed) himself.


He wasn't that stunned and his healing factor was supposed to take care of that anyway. And IM still one-punched him. Tendrils through the head and trio wins.


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He wasn't that stunned and his healing factor was supposed to take care of that anyway. And IM still one-punched him. Tendrils through the head and trio wins.


He wasn't physically stunned. He was just blinded by an explosion. It wouldn't normally happen. In fact, it smells kinda PISy. Not Iron Man kayoeing him, but him being stunned by that explosion.

And the Trio loses.

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He wasn't physically stunned. He was just blinded by an explosion. It wouldn't normally happen. In fact, it smells kinda PISy. Not Iron Man kayoeing him, but him being stunned by that explosion.

And the Trio loses.


My whole point was that listing people that Hulk beat before when they were a team is pointless because many of these guys beat Hulk by themselvs. And yeah i agree, IM thing sounds PISy. So is Hulk beating all those guys at the same time.

And Trio wins.


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My whole point was that listing people that Hulk beat before when they were a team is pointless because many of these guys beat Hulk by themselvs. And yeah i agree, IM thing sounds PISy. So is Hulk beating all those guys at the same time.

And Trio wins.


you're ignoring the nuances. Samson never beat the Hulk that wiped the floor with the Avengers. Neither did any of the other guys. Because it was simply an unbeatable version of Hulk (he was angry all the friggin' time!), until he started to get weaker due to the seperation. Besides, most on that list never defeated any version of Hulk.

And the trio loses.

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Symbiotes having shock from trying to overcome Hulk?erm
Nothing like that happened before to them and they pretty much were shown to be able to overcome anyone including SS, so i don't see any reason why it wont work against Hulk.

SS rarely shows Hulk's level of willpower.
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Yeah and many of the guys you listed koed Hulk by their own.
IM with one punch actually.

Not really, just Iron Man, Namor, and Samson.

Samson did it with a cheap shot and Namor's and IM's punches each delivered far more force than this trio possibly could, so that's pretty much moot.

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Yeah and many of the guys you listed koed Hulk by their own.
IM with one punch actually.


you can't be serious here

3 of them beat the hulk once ( in the water Namor, Samson and Iron Man punching Hulk who was not awake,and who was not ready with an illusion) the hulk beat them tons of times

In normal conditions without plot devices the hulk would rape the 3 guys 10/10

so, what's your point ?

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Wouldn't the symbiote jump ship (Eddie Brock) and try to jioin wiht the Hulk out of a craving for power? This was once suggested in a "What If?" comic.

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If an earthquake's already begun, then it's not going to instantly stop when Hulk stops pounding.

And the healing factor naturally gets rid of any invaders in Hulk's system, which is why it's suspect. If any tendrils enter his body, what's to stop Hulk's immune system from instantly trying to get rid of it?


Stomping the ground is not earthquakes.
The moment Hulk stops stomping is when the ground stops shaking.
Nice try though

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SS rarely shows Hulk's level of willpower.

Not really, just Iron Man, Namor, and Samson.

Samson did it with a cheap shot and Namor's and IM's punches each delivered far more force than this trio possibly could, so that's pretty much moot.


Are not Venom and Carnage fast enough to get a cheap shot too.
Spiderman can distract him.

Since Hulk can be KOed that means his brain is vulnerable.
Do you think the tendrils can penetrate to his brain?

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Stomping the ground is not earthquakes.
The moment Hulk stops stomping is when the ground stops shaking.
Nice try though

Hulk pounding the ground does create mini earthquakes. They can very well continue for a few seconds after he stops.

Not hard to get.

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you can't be serious here

3 of them beat the hulk once ( in the water Namor, Samson and Iron Man punching Hulk who was not awake,and who was not ready with an illusion) the hulk beat them tons of times

In normal conditions without plot devices the hulk would rape the 3 guys 10/10

so, what's your point ?

I stated my point on the first page. You can go look for it and try to disprove it. Untill then Hulk loses.

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you're ignoring the nuances. Samson never beat the Hulk that wiped the floor with the Avengers. Neither did any of the other guys. Because it was simply an unbeatable version of Hulk (he was angry all the friggin' time!), until he started to get weaker due to the seperation. Besides, most on that list never defeated any version of Hulk.

And the trio loses.


That's why I said some of the list beat him few times. I never said they all beat him.

And Hulk loses. (this is getting old)


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No, you said many. And even then there were stipulations and what not.

And no, Hulk wins this one.

Btw, your point on the first page is invalid. Because you only showed a part of the fight. You 'forgot' to show how Merged Hulk (because it was him) quickly finished the fight. Also, how he didn't even take Venom seriously.

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No, you said many. And even then there were stipulations and what not.

And no, Hulk wins this one.

Btw, your point on the first page is invalid. Because you only showed a part of the fight. You 'forgot' to show how Merged Hulk (because it was him) quickly finished the fight. Also, how he didn't even take Venom seriously.


I showed all scans I had and these scans were not my point, i just showed the fight. And Hulk had to thunderclap Venom to end the fight and Venom wasn't taking him more seriously than Hulk was taking Venom so please, don't tell me that I "forgot" to post something. Many or not, it was PIS anyway. And my point was that symbiotes will take Hulk over with their tendrils. If they could do that to SS, they could do that to Hulk.


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I showed all scans I had and these scans were not my point, i just showed the fight. And Hulk had to thunderclap Venom to end the fight and Venom wasn't taking him more seriously than Hulk was taking Venom so please, don't tell me that I "forgot" to post something. Many or not, it was PIS anyway. And my point was that symbiotes will take Hulk over with their tendrils. If they could do that to SS, they could do that to Hulk.


Weren't you the guy who posted the full scans in the Venom Respect thread? I could be wrong.

But anyway, the fight wasn't PIS. It went down exactly how it should. Venom cannot take over SS, now THAT is what I call PIS. Oh and Hulk didn't HAVE to thunderclap, but it's an effective method of dealing with Venom. So why not use it?

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Originally posted by Dinalfos
Weren't you the guy who posted the full scans in the Venom Respect thread? I could be wrong.

But anyway, the fight wasn't PIS. It went down exactly how it should. Venom cannot take over SS, now THAT is what I call PIS. Oh and Hulk didn't HAVE to thunderclap, but it's an effective method of dealing with Venom. So why not use it?


Yeah i posted them a while ago but i could swear i posted exactly the same scans there, and even if I'm mistaken why should it matter? My intention wasn't to make it look that Venom won the fight, i just posted it because the fight was mentioned. And Hulk had to thunderclap because there was webbing all over his face and Venom was safely standing on his back making it hard for Hulk to reach him, plus Venom is quicker, so yes it was effective method but he also HAD to use it.
Carnage did took over SS, why is it PIS? Hulk alone beating all those guys, you call that fight went as it should?


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I find it funny when someone calls Hulk beating up a group of brawlers PIS and then tries to justify a symbiote taking over Surfer. laughing out loud

Any way, just because it works on Surfer, doesn't mean it'll work on Hulk. That's the key point. Hulk's willpower is above Surfer's and he's overcome far worse than this before.

Not to mention he doesn't need to a thunderclap to deliver the same amount of force. A good ground-pound will certainly suffice as it'll produce the same concussive force and deafening noise.

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Originally posted by DevilGoblin
you can't be serious here

3 of them beat the hulk once ( in the water Namor, Samson and Iron Man punching Hulk who was not awake,and who was not ready with an illusion) the hulk beat them tons of times

In normal conditions without plot devices the hulk would rape the 3 guys 10/10

so, what's your point ?


Yet isn't it wierd that Namor has 2 clear victories over Hulk and Hulk has only one over him. roll eyes (sarcastic)


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