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stormfront13
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Originally posted by psy_blade
But it can only protect her from objects. Because i don't think wind can deflect energy or mantal attacks. She can just summon a tornado around her and it will do the same thing.


no, she has actual force-fields like magneto and such

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But the mutants who survived The house of M depowering are generally more powerful than those that didn't like only the top still have their powers ex Magneto, Storm, Apocalpse, Pyslocke, Emma Frost


Euh just check the list of depowerd mutants.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimation_%28comics%29

Some powerful mutants are on that list.

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The list says not to trust it. It was said Magneto wasn't depowered, Xorn is unknown but still iceman, Mr. M, and many other powerful mutants lost their powers. Most of those mutants had powers like super speed or strength, flight and basic powers


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But at best, her shield will be just like her strongest tornado. Because Energy blasts and psionic based blasts can still go through it because it's just made of wind. I think the writers shouldn't give storm a shield even if it's not useful as what she has now. It's like how they gave Syrin shield that is made of sound waves that can deflect even lasers. Its just ridiculous. It's getting boring how their powers kept on expanding that they are slowly becoming walking plot devices.


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But at best, her shield will be just like her strongest tornado. Because Energy blasts and psionic based blasts can still go through it because it's just made of wind. I think the writers shouldn't give storm a shield even if it's not useful as what she has now. It's like how they gave Syrin shield that is made of sound waves that can deflect even lasers. Its just ridiculous. It's getting boring how their powers kept on expanding that they are slowly becoming walking plot devices.


no, your still confused. she has an actual shield that will protect her from telepaths and telekinetics

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Storm's Electromagnetic shield can withstand blasts and even physical assault from a bat


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Originally posted by ExodusCloak
3 fights if you include the Pheonix Endsong one....and X4 one then it's 5....

Emma knocked out Storm in the first one..
Emma surrendered in the second one...but wasn't knocked out...and CIS is why she lost...
The third one was a draw....

In Endsong Phoenix Emma beat Storm
And in X4 Emma Mentally Shocked Storm.

It's a Psi force bolt...loads of telepaths can do that....even novices..


If Emma did all that then this means Jean wins. Becaus Jean is a lot better and powerful than Emma in telepathy plus her telekinesis just doubles her chances of winning. I was kinda thinking that Jean would use more of her telekinesis rather than telepathy in this fight but then Emma fought Storm with tp and it now seems to me that tp is the more effective power to use in combat than telekinesis so whatever.

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But Emma didn't win all those battles she only one one well technically two when she had phoenix. Storm has won all others


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But Emma didn't win all those battles she only one one well technically two when she had phoenix. Storm has won all others


It's really sad how badly Storm gets owned in this fight. And versus Magneto.

That poor weather witch. Maybe she can get some kind of magnetic/telepathic nullifier from T'Challa, what with being his ***** and all.


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That really isn't taking her down...considering the page after that storm promptly gets up, and then crushes her smile

Agreed Jean would win the majority.

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current storms extensive experience fighting telepaths, shadow king etc makes her the wrong woman to mess with for miss grey.

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That really isn't taking her down...considering the page after that storm promptly gets up, and then crushes her smile

Agreed Jean would win the majority.


You talking about the second scan? Because that fight never had a conclusion....

The first fight ended with Storm kidnapped and tortured....

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Originally posted by manjaro
in case we all forgotten storm can shoot lightning directly from her hands nowbig grin she doesnt have to wait for clouds to get dark and what not.. so she stands just as good a chance of frying jean, as she does her..maybe when she was young and inexperienced with her powers, but as we've seen in that arc in the savage land..nowadays, unless she's taken completely by surprise and doesnt have her defenses up TP of any sort normally wont work on her...and she can erect shieilds and fire bolts just as good as anyone with TK, so i say it all depends on battle conditions and battle location...id go for 50/50


She hasn't shown any resistance to a psi-force bolt...her only resistance to telepathy is the resistible type....i.e. Mind Control and Probing...

As shown on panel a psi-force bolt can take her down.

BTW She still has to think to use her powers...the action of telepathy is thought....

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I was saying that she does whatever she wants with the wetaher, no matter how fast they "usually" go. She has done that plenty times before.


I'm still not getting what you're saying...she's done what with the weather?

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Nope, can't work. Read X-men: The End. Storm is paralyzed and thrown into some pool. As some bad person is about to "kill" her, she summons a tornadoe from the sky that freezes the pool....PARALYZED. So it does not take action for her to use her powers. She could be tied up and still ue her powers WITHOUT any action and what-not.

And I wasn't saying the electrons in lightning, but the electrons in your body-which Storm can use to fling more nasty weather at Jean-they move at the speed of light.


X-Men The End is not in continuity and can't be used as material for debating 616 Storm.

BTW You don't understand....

The action of telepathy is thought....

Storms attacks is thought + action....meaning she thinks and action follows with telepathy it's think and action occurs simultaneously.

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It's really sad how badly Storm gets owned in this fight. And versus Magneto.

That poor weather witch. Maybe she can get some kind of magnetic/telepathic nullifier from T'Challa, what with being his ***** and all.


Too true....

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current storms extensive experience fighting telepaths, shadow king etc makes her the wrong woman to mess with for miss grey.


When telepaths aren't jobbing....they go all out..meaning they don't hold make for comic purposes..and Storm has only shown resistance to probing and mind control....a psi-force bolt has taken her out on panel...therefore she goes down here.


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The list says not to trust it. It was said Magneto wasn't depowered, Xorn is unknown but still iceman, Mr. M, and many other powerful mutants lost their powers. Most of those mutants had powers like super speed or strength, flight and basic powers


Magneto isn't depowered any more.

He got repowered by the Collective in New Avengers #20 iirc.


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STORM TAKES THIS!!!!!!!!!!!

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Angry Jean Gray vs. storm

If Jean turned into the phoenix she would obliderate storm ,but if not storm would win hands down. yes

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So Jean wins due to Storm's lack of defense against psy blasts?

I've never seen a thread that has an ending and a sole winner.


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Originally posted by ExodusCloak
She hasn't shown any resistance to a psi-force bolt...her only resistance to telepathy is the resistible type....i.e. Mind Control and Probing...

As shown on panel a psi-force bolt can take her down.

BTW She still has to think to use her powers...the action of telepathy is thought....

The action of telepathy is thought....

Storms attacks is thought + action....meaning she thinks and action follows with telepathy it's think and action occurs simultaneously.

When telepaths aren't jobbing....they go all out..meaning they don't hold make for comic purposes..and Storm has only shown resistance to probing and mind control....a psi-force bolt has taken her out on panel...therefore she goes down here.


Quoted for truth.


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when storm isnt holding back or jobbing or both she is unto a force of Nature, she cannot be harmed. Slowed mebbe.
Storm bloodlusted will keeel Jean!!

cremate jean
tear her head off
slam her into ground zero, use her as a shovel to dig her own grave
juice jean with a localised hurricane
choke her
Instant Jean jerky. Recall every drop of moisture from her body - just like That.

The list goes on...

Storm fights a constant battle to contain her mutant powers. With Bloodlust Jean is wormbait.

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Originally posted by don't shiv
when storm isnt holding back or jobbing or both she is unto a force of Nature, she cannot be harmed. Slowed mebbe.
Storm bloodlusted will keeel Jean!!

cremate jean
tear her head off
slam her into ground zero, use her as a shovel to dig her own grave
juice jean with a localised hurricane
choke her
Instant Jean jerky. Recall every drop of moisture from her body - just like That.

The list goes on...

Storm fights a constant battle to contain her mutant powers. With Bloodlust Jean is wormbait.


So, does this all take place before or after Jean telekinetically crushes her heart? Or shuts down all brain functions? Or telekinetically rips her apart instantly?


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