Grimm22
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Soljer
Wasn't it given to him by apocalypse? Apocalypse is hardly a 'man.'
I didn't mean litteraly a man
Everything in life has flaws
Nothing except god himself is perfect
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Dec 8th, 2006 04:34 PM
Grimm22
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by long pig
Doesn't count. BP is Batman but with affirmative action and by a closet retard. He's beaten the entire FF and Avengers before, too. If BP ever loses, Marvel gets sued for discrimination. God, Hudlin sucks.
Classic T'Challa (AKA the good Black Panther) beat the FF with prep time and a sneak attack
There were some plot devices in that fight, but it was still fair
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Dec 8th, 2006 04:36 PM
DarkCrawler
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Hmm. From all I have seen it's 5/10.
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Dec 8th, 2006 05:43 PM
Soljer
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Grimm22
I didn't mean litteraly a man
Everything in life has flaws
Nothing except god himself is perfect
Without getting into the Judeochristian mythos; comics aren't life. There are plenty of 'perfect' things in comics.
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Dec 8th, 2006 05:46 PM
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bump.
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Jun 4th, 2007 07:27 PM
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Difficult. I doubt Adamantium Beta has any weaknesses, but Karnak could KO Logan... however wouldn't it make Karnak's wrist bones shattered? On the other hand he KOed Surfer, right? Hmmm... anyways Wolverine can block Karnak's blow - Karnak would end without a hand in this way 'cause of razor sharp claws... Karnak isn't unbeatable. And his powers are not unlimited. As well as Logan's.
Jun 4th, 2007 07:50 PM
srankmissingnin
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Karnak is kind of a putz. He got beat up by Luna just because she has basic pre-cog... which doesn't even make sense considering his speed and skill and the fact that she is like eight.
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Jun 4th, 2007 07:53 PM
Symmetric Chaos
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Doesn't Karnak have a history of losing to people because he does't use his speed and (technically speaking) lacks real skill?
I remember this coming up in another thread.
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Jun 4th, 2007 08:15 PM
srankmissingnin
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Doesn't Karnak have a history of losing to people because he does't use his speed and (technically speaking) lacks real skill?
I remember this coming up in another thread.
I think the problem isn't his speed, but rather that he has relatively normal reaction time.
Being able to throw a super fast punch is nice, but if you can't react to your enemy's movements in time to land it, then it doesn't really matter.
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Jun 4th, 2007 08:18 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Karnak is kind of a putz. He got beat up by Luna just because she has basic pre-cog... which doesn't even make sense considering his speed and skill and the fact that she is like eight.
I wouldn't say beaten. When she tried to swing at him, all he did was tap the sword's weak spot and it broke.
Karnak should take this 7/10 at least.
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Jun 4th, 2007 08:21 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I think the problem isn't his speed, but rather that he has relatively normal reaction time.
Being able to throw a super fast punch is nice, but if you can't react to your enemy's movements in time to land it, then it doesn't really matter.
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Jun 4th, 2007 08:21 PM
Dum Dum Dugan
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Wolverine wins this karnak abiltiy is pritty worthless on skilled fighters.
All is does is tell him there weakness.............which any skilled fighter already knows.
Then add in the fact Logan has the reach advantage due to the claws and the fact he can heal from karnak assualts and this fight rather one sided.
waits to be called a fan boy..........becuase people love karnak for the dumbest of reasons.
Jun 7th, 2007 05:47 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by capt it up
Wolverine wins this karnak abiltiy is pritty worthless on skilled fighters.
All is does is tell him there weakness.............which any skilled fighter already knows.
Then add in the fact Logan has the reach advantage due to the claws and the fact he can heal from karnak assualts and this fight rather one sided.
waits to be called a fan boy..........becuase people love karnak for the dumbest of reasons.
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAAHAAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
Do you understand anything about Karnak at all? He doesn't see a flaw in their martial arts style, he sees the point you need to touch in order to **** their body up completely.
Karnak is faster, he can speedblitz Wolvie np.
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Jun 7th, 2007 05:51 PM
Dum Dum Dugan
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by llagrok
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAAHAAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
Do you understand anything about Karnak at all? He doesn't see a flaw in their martial arts style, he sees the point you need to touch in order to **** their body up completely.
Karnak is faster, he can speedblitz Wolvie np.
your an idiot.
Any skilled MA knows a person's weak spots, but thanks for missing the entire point of my post. All karnak power does is allow him to see weak points which is useless vs Skilled fighters becuase they know were there weak pointws are smart guy.
Any top tier MA can tell you were all there weak spots are and were there oponets weak spots all ( if they have human body structure).
Karnak powers really only good verse unskilled bricks.,
Oh and karnack could not speed blizt wolverine. He vcan't even deal with black panther.
He has no reaction feats that put him at wolverines level let a lone being able to speed blizt him.
Not to mention Logan can easily heal form the damage as well.
Jun 7th, 2007 05:56 PM
srankmissingnin
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Karnak is kind of a putz. He got beat up by Luna just because she has basic pre-cog... which doesn't even make sense considering his speed and skill and the fact that she is like eight.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by srankmissingnin
I think the problem isn't his speed, but rather that he has relatively normal reaction time.
Being able to throw a super fast punch is nice, but if you can't react to your enemy's movements in time to land it, then it doesn't really matter.
Sensual.
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Jun 7th, 2007 05:57 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Sensual.
I don't think Capt understands Karnak's powers, nor the object of the fight.
If it's his intention, he can kill Wolverine with a touch, but it's about knocking them out. The old Karnak fights are just BS. If Wolverine throws a punch, Karnak can crush his hand with a block.
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Jun 7th, 2007 06:32 PM
srankmissingnin
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by llagrok
I don't think Capt understands Karnak's powers, nor the object of the fight.
If it's his intention, he can kill Wolverine with a touch, but it's about knocking them out. The old Karnak fights are just BS. If Wolverine throws a punch, Karnak can crush his hand with a block.
Heres the thing, aside from his skeleton (and super dense muscles/bones) Wolverine has all the same weakness as a normal human. If you can hit Wolverine with enough force to kill a normal man, you can kill Wolverine... only he will recover in a fraction of a second. All the flaws Wolverine has are human flaws, and there isn't a single one that his healing factor isn't more then cable of recovering from in seconds it is exploited.
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Jun 7th, 2007 06:37 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Heres the thing, aside from his skeleton (and super dense muscles/bones) Wolverine has all the same weakness as a normal human. If you can hit Wolverine with enough force to kill a normal man, you can kill Wolverine... only he will recover in a fraction of a second. All the flaws Wolverine has are human flaws, and there isn't a single one that his healing factor isn't more then cable of recovering from in seconds it is exploited.
I think you're wrong.
EVERYTHING has a weakness, even adamantium. Of course, it doesn't have a weakness, then I suppose Karnak is f'ed.
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Jun 7th, 2007 06:51 PM
Dum Dum Dugan
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Heres the thing, aside from his skeleton (and super dense muscles/bones) Wolverine has all the same weakness as a normal human. If you can hit Wolverine with enough force to kill a normal man, you can kill Wolverine... only he will recover in a fraction of a second. All the flaws Wolverine has are human flaws, and there isn't a single one that his healing factor isn't more then cable of recovering from in seconds it is exploited.
yup which I have been tyring to save the entire time lol.
Jun 7th, 2007 08:45 PM
Dum Dum Dugan
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by llagrok
I think you're wrong.
EVERYTHING has a weakness, even adamantium. Of course, it doesn't have a weakness, then I suppose Karnak is f'ed.
sorry but his power does not work like you think it does.
when he looks at a human he sees the main weak points with in the human body which is utterly useless vs Logan.
Also even if Karnak saw the weak point in Logans adamatium he never have the strength to damage it even in the slightest.
Jun 7th, 2007 08:47 PM
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