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Well, the reason he had the powers, was because the JLA had the members in it, and he had the powers of each of them.

Why would he suddenly be able to take DD's adaption power, when DD is not a member of the Justice League?

So his body doesn't copy powers like the animated version does ? smile

That would explain why they where able to kill him during the Morisson run. smile

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All concepts are derived from the real world in some shape or form.

Right,

But most of the real-world concepts used in comics are either completely warped, or go out the window completely, if they don't agree with the story at hand.

In the real-world laws that we know of, (e.g. creating life from nothingness) cannot be achieved.

In the comic world, these "laws" are non-existant, as numerous individuals can create life from nothingness.

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Originally posted by Juntai
Well, the reason he had the powers, was because the JLA had the members in it, and he had the powers of each of them.

Why would he suddenly be able to take DD's adaption power, when DD is not a member of the Justice League?

Sneaky bastich..... laughing

that is brilliant, and yes, it does raise a good question. Are we discarding that aspect of his powers as PIS or is an accepted fact for this version of Amazo?

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Originally posted by Galan007
Right,

But most of the real-world concepts used in comics are either completely warped, or go out the window completely, if they don't agree with the story at hand.

In the real-world laws that we know of, (e.g. creating life from nothingness) cannot be achieved.

In the comic world, these "laws" are non-existant, as numerous individuals can create life from nothingness.

I disagree, have you ever heard of Quantum theory before ? smile

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Well, the reason he had the powers, was because the JLA had the members in it, and he had the powers of each of them.

Why would he suddenly be able to take DD's adaption power, when DD is not a member of the Justice League?

Are you saying that Amazo can only take on the attributes of people in the JLA?

Because I have seen him absorb the traits from normal beings who have nothing to do with the JLA.

The whole "humazo" incident was a result of him taking the souls and attributes of ordinary people, in an effort to "feel".

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Are you saying that Amazo can only take on the attributes of people in the JLA?

Because I have seen him absorb the traits from normal beings who have nothing to do with the JLA.

The whole "humamazo" incident was a result of him taking th souls and attributes of ordinary people, in an effort to "feel".

The thread creator specified a version of Amazo.
The power of the 14 JLA members.

And different incarnations of Amazo are different.

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Originally posted by Juntai
The thread creator specified a version of Amazo.
The power of the 14 JLA members.

What leads you to think that version of Amazo could only copy the powers of the JLA?

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What leads you to think that version of Amazo could only copy the powers of the JLA?

Because he went powerless when Superman disbanded the JLA.

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What leads you to think that version of Amazo could only copy the powers of the JLA?

When Superman disbanded the JLA, their where no longer any members therefore it conflicted with his programming. smile

I have the issue, Junati is right ! I just didn't think it was this Amazo u where referring to ! smile

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Because he went powerless when Superman disbanded the JLA.

I know that.

But again, why do you think Amazo could only absorb the JLA's power?

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Originally posted by Galan007
I know that.

But again, why do you think Amazo could only absorb the JLA's power?

Well why did he have no powers, when the JLA was disbanded, if he could absorb them anyway ? smile

See real world logic applied to a comic, it works doesn't it. smile

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Well why did he have no powers, when the JLA was disbanded, if he could absorb them anyway ?

See real world logic applied to a comic, it works doesn't it.

That's not my question,

My question once again is....

What makes you think that Amazo could ONLY absorb the powers of the JLA members, and no others?

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That's not my question,

My question once again is....

What makes you think that Amazo could ONLY absorb the powers of the JLA members, and no others?

Because in JLA 27 it didn't seem that he was absorbing powers it was that he had what ever powers the JLA had.

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But again, why does that mean he was incapable of absorbing any other powers? confused

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But again, why does that mean he was incapable of absorbing any other powers?

Same reason Batman can't blow up the moon with eye beams.
He never showed the power.
He simply had whatever the JLA had.
And when the JLA was disbanded, the story was over.

If he was able to absorb outside of that influence, he would have still been OK right?

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But again, why does that mean he was incapable of absorbing any other powers?

The logic being that he was limited by the members of the JLA to gain power since he should have been able to take the powers just from them even if they weren't JLA members.

They also make a big point of increasing the JLA in size.

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If he was able to absorb outside of that influence, he would have still been OK right?

What outside influence was there besides the JLA?

Sure, we don't know if he could have absorbed anything else...... But a claim cannot be made that he was incapable of absorbing anything other then the JLA either.

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What outside influence was there besides the JLA?

Sure, we don't know if he could have absorbed anything else...... But a claim cannot be made that he was incapable of absorbing anything other then the JLA either.

You're backing yourself into a logical fallacy sad

Its not possible to prove a negative. You have to provide evidence that the AMAZO from JLA27 can absorb any power he wants.

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Originally posted by Juntai
Same reason Batman can't blow up the moon with eye beams.
He never showed the power.
He simply had whatever the JLA had.
And when the JLA was disbanded, the story was over.

If he was able to absorb outside of that influence, he would have still been OK right?

In this case, DD hands down smile

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Oh, and I think that Amazo doesn't copy the powers at 100%, the amount of powers (or beings being copied) is what makes him faster then the flash, and he seems to be just slightly faster then Flash for example, though if he had 100% powers of all the members, like Flash, Superman, WW etc he should be at least 299% fater, he isn't, may be that he just gets 60% from the Flash, 60% from Superman, 60% from WW etc, so in the end he is still faster but not that much.

DD evolution power would be beyond this copy ability IMHO, and even if he could do it, DD would evolve after his death to the point where he would be able to beat Amazo, who in turn would be resurrected and evolved too, but can a machine evolve as much as a living being?

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Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
You're backing yourself into a logical fallacy

Its not possible to prove a negative. You have to provide evidence that the AMAZO from JLA27 can absorb any power he wants.

I never said he can did I?

I simply said it's impossible to say that he could not have absorbed any other powers, because he never attempted to.

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