playa1258
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Hulk is very powerful, he would inflict heavy losses on the X-men. Most of them have human level durabilty and therfore go down in one hit.
Jul 4th, 2007 08:15 PM
Utrigita
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by llagrok
Lunatik beat the watcher, watcher is overrated imo.
I have to be sure that we are talking Uatu so that I doesn't say anything I might regret.
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Jul 4th, 2007 08:18 PM
guy222
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by llagrok
Lunatik beat the watcher, watcher is overrated imo. That logic doesn't work anyways. Wolverine was able to cut Thanos, Wolverine >> Thanos?
Hulk can't K.O Bobby, he can crush him and then Bobby can kill him. If Bobby was able to take care of Fuego, I doubt Hulk is going to be any problem.
Does Hulk have any liquid in his brain? If he does, Iceman can easily freeze it. Doesn't matter how thick Hulk's skull is because Iceman doesn't have to force his hand through his head in order to freeze the water. He hardly needs to touch him.
Yeah, anger removes his need for a nervous system. Logic
You think that Xavier tried to control the Hulk? Why would he want to do that? Xavier tried to read his mind and he accomplished it. Task completed. Xavier never stated that he attempted to injure The Hulk.
Xavier, Emma and a couple of others are probably the most resistant to telepathic control there is. That does NOT grant them immunity to telepathic attacks. Just like how Hulk isn't immune to mental bolts. He's immune to mind control, like 20% of the marvel verse.
He has shown resistance to mental control in the future, but he has obviously been injured by mental bolts. Why would that change? Getting angrier makes him harder to control, he's still as easy to mind blast.
Like most of us saw, those of us who read the old New x-men. Me and Debel. We saw that Emma can do quite a lot with her telepathy, like stop people from feeling pain, enhance the pain they're feeling a hundredfold and press certain buttons/induce certain reactions within the human body. Think of it as ranged pheromone control.
Hulk has a body and is affected in the same way that anyone else is. It works just as easily on class 1000 as it does on a class 10.
When did Watcher lose to Lun? Of course, Howlett can cut Thanos
I like Bobby. Mutants amaze me. Again, no one is beating Hulk until Marvel deems it
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Jul 4th, 2007 09:23 PM
guy222
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Jul 4th, 2007 09:37 PM
xmarksthespot
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by guy222
Ones in the book
Are u gonna read X Men #200
I've flipped through it already.
Those shown so far in the crossover?
Hellion BFRs him.
Shadowcat does this to him, but doesn't stop at the torso.
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Emma and Xavier use alternative telepathic means than mind control on him.
None of this will happen in the comics of course because that would result in Hulk losing.
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Jul 4th, 2007 09:56 PM
Kris Blaze
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Hulk would beat 'em in the comics.
Not on KMC.
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Jul 4th, 2007 10:00 PM
Blight
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Well if he beats enough people in the comics then his feats will rise and you will be shit out of luck.
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Jul 4th, 2007 10:21 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Blight
Well if he beats enough people in the comics then his feats will rise and you will be shit out of luck. exactly
btw tell me how u freeze gamma radiation,ive never seen it done and plus it supposedly burns hotter than the sun
someone claimed bobby can get as strong and durable as the hulk adding mass doesnt mean you add strength(it does technically im being an ass ex.atlas,goliath etc.)but just cause he can add strength doesnt mean he can approach WWH levels(tell me im lying) besides iceman has control over thermal energy(his power is removing heat not adding ice or coolness/cold)thats what he has unlimited potential in
Jul 4th, 2007 10:47 PM
Blight
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Frankly This Iceman god that people have here on KMC is starting to bug me. Same with the magneto garbage.
What's the point of a character if there is no way to beat them? No body=shit character in my opinion.
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Jul 4th, 2007 10:49 PM
Kris Blaze
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by strengthkills
exactly
btw tell me how u freeze gamma radiation,ive never seen it done and plus it supposedly burns hotter than the sun
someone claimed bobby can get as strong and durable as the hulk adding mass doesnt mean you add strength(it does technically im being an ass ex.atlas,goliath etc.)but just cause he can add strength doesnt mean he can approach WWH levels(tell me im lying) besides iceman has control over thermal energy(his power is removing heat not adding ice or coolness/cold)thats what he has unlimited potential in
If Hulk was that hot, people wouldn't be able to touch him. I never said that he would reach WWH or regular Hulk levels, I said that he would become class 100. It's not enough to beat the Hulk through sheer strength, but it's still impressive.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Blight
Frankly This Iceman god that people have here on KMC is starting to bug me. Same with the magneto garbage.
What's the point of a character if there is no way to beat them? No body=shit character in my opinion.
lol.
Iceman is around low herald, he's hardly a god. It's based on feats that he has, it's not a hyperbole.
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Jul 4th, 2007 10:59 PM
Blight
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by llagrok
If Hulk was that hot, people wouldn't be able to touch him. I never said that he would reach WWH or regular Hulk levels, I said that he would become class 100. It's not enough to beat the Hulk through sheer strength, but it's still impressive.
lol.
Iceman is around low herald, he's hardly a god. It's based on feats that he has, it's not a hyperbole.
What it is is kindof annoying.
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Jul 4th, 2007 11:00 PM
strengthkills
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by llagrok
If Hulk was that hot, people wouldn't be able to touch him. I never said that he would reach WWH or regular Hulk levels, I said that he would become class 100. It's not enough to beat the Hulk through sheer strength, but it's still impressive.
lol.
Iceman is around low herald, he's hardly a god. It's based on feats that he has, it's not a hyperbole.
gammas not hot in that sense,its so full of energy....compare it to atoms which everything has ,but they are not exploding like an atom bomb(i just messed that up,tell me if you dont understand)
Jul 5th, 2007 12:22 AM
Symmetric Chaos
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by strengthkills
exactly
btw tell me how u freeze gamma radiation,ive never seen it done and plus it supposedly burns hotter than the sun
someone claimed bobby can get as strong and durable as the hulk adding mass doesnt mean you add strength(it does technically im being an ass ex.atlas,goliath etc.)but just cause he can add strength doesnt mean he can approach WWH levels(tell me im lying) besides iceman has control over thermal energy(his power is removing heat not adding ice or coolness/cold)thats what he has unlimited potential in
Iceman has frozen energy before. Hulk isn't made of raw energy anyway.
Bobby isn't as strong as Hulk (unless he made himself ridiculously huge) but he is far more durable since he can just reform himself. But he doesn't need any of that since he can just liquefy him.
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Jul 5th, 2007 12:24 AM
Blight
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See it's instances like this that really get my gall!
If Iceman is powerful enough that he can just liquefy people then what's the point? Why does he even have bad guys?
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Jul 5th, 2007 12:41 AM
Kris Blaze
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Blight
See it's instances like this that really get my gall!
If Iceman is powerful enough that he can just liquefy people then what's the point? Why does he even have bad guys?
Well, he doesn't fight normal human beings, now does he? Nor does he liquefy everyone he fights. He's not fighting random bank robbers all the time either.
Seriously, what's wrong with you today? You're whining about Iceman and Magneto's power levels?
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Jul 5th, 2007 12:43 AM
Blight
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There's nothing wrong with me.
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Jul 5th, 2007 12:47 AM
Charlotte DeBel
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llagrok, call me Charlorre, not DeBel. And it was just stupid, that Emma, one of most skilled "mental surgeons" ever, tries one of the most stupid things possible- fights Hulk hand-to-hand....yes, he can't do much to her in diamond form, but she can do even less to him that way.
Another stupid thing from WWH:X-Men is Emma feeling mental feedback in her diamond form. In that state her nervous system is altered so she doesn't feel pain or anything, even more- it becomes a "prism" which disperses psionic energy, preventing her both from using her TP and from being affected by TP. In human form she'd be most probably affected, in diamond form- I just don't believe i...
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Jul 5th, 2007 05:26 AM
strengthkills
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by llagrok
Hulk would beat 'em in the comics.
Not on KMC.
wow
Jul 5th, 2007 02:11 PM
Blight
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Charlotte DeBel
llagrok, call me Charlorre, not DeBel. And it was just stupid, that Emma, one of most skilled "mental surgeons" ever, tries one of the most stupid things possible- fights Hulk hand-to-hand....yes, he can't do much to her in diamond form, but she can do even less to him that way.
Another stupid thing from WWH:X-Men is Emma feeling mental feedback in her diamond form. In that state her nervous system is altered so she doesn't feel pain or anything, even more- it becomes a "prism" which disperses psionic energy, preventing her both from using her TP and from being affected by TP. In human form she'd be most probably affected, in diamond form- I just don't believe i...
It was so powerful a feedback that it effected her in her diamond state... now THAT'S power
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