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Solar gets mind raped

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Solar gets mind raped


Better people have tried and failed


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Better.. who would that be?


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You forget that X-Man wields energy and matter at a subatomic level through telekinesis. I can shield himself, or bend the energy around it.


I doubt he manipulates energy on the same level as Solar does.


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id just doesn't understand how wrong he is.


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I doubt he manipulates energy on the same level as Solar does.

I concede to that point. X-Man does not manipulate energy on the same level, as Solar does. Solar has a direct affinity to energy, while X-Man manipulates energy, through energy.


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I concede to that point. X-Man does not manipulate energy on the same level, as Solar does. Solar has a direct affinity to energy, while X-Man manipulates energy, through energy.


And that is shown where???

And how exactly are you going to have X-man hurt Solar? All the telepathy attacks that he has endured he has managed to overcome some easier then others, and even a person as Galan showed with Global Telepathy (through aid ore whatever) still had problems with Solars mind.


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y, man?
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Solar makes an eX-person out of X-man shifty.


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And that is shown where???

Isolated gravity and sent Two Elder Beasts flings. He manipulated the Electromagnetic Field, to send an EM pulse in efforts to fry some equipment. Basically his manipulation of TK is so finite, he knows the composite and weight of the of a single atom. Yet Grand enough demolish an entire City with a thumbs down.


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And how exactly are you going to have X-man hurt Solar? All the telepathy attacks that he has endured he has managed to overcome some easier then others, and even a person as Galan showed with Global Telepathy (through aid ore whatever) still had problems with Solars mind.


Not really, The Wire was overwhelmed by the concept that Solar fathered this Earth and Viewed him as God. X-Man acknowledges beings higher powers, who has seen, witnesses and experienced these higher powers. You cant quantify each other, they are in entirely separate leagues (in both how they wield their power, and overall awareness). But make no mistake about it, the mind link was a successes. And I don’t remember seeing or reading of a single telepathic attack. It was either an illusion (which Solar falls for time and time again) or mind readings (which has worked what 4 out 5 times).


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Isolated gravity and sent Two Elder Beasts flings. He manipulated the Electromagnetic Field, to send an EM pulse in efforts to fry some equipment. Basically his manipulation of TK is so finite, he knows the composite and weight of the of a single atom. Yet Grand enough demolish an entire City with a thumbs down.

Not really, The Wire was overwhelmed by the concept that Solar fathered this Earth and Viewed him as God. X-Man acknowledges beings higher powers, who has seen, witnesses and experienced these higher powers. You cant quantify each other, they are in entirely separate leagues (in both how they wield their power, and overall awareness). But make no mistake about it, the mind link was a successes. And I don’t remember seeing or reading of a single telepathic attack. It was either an illusion (which Solar falls for time and time again) or mind readings (which has worked what 4 out 5 times).


All things that Solar have done, and how shall I out this... I guess you can say that he then require atoms in order to manipulate a substance would he then for instance be capable of manipulating that substance, Solar manipulates energy on a higher level.

I get it too 3 out of 5 times, and the Illusion from you scan didn't work out very well from my point of view, He wasn't the first time but it still didn't work quiet well, seeing as how technology was required to be capable of locating Solar so evasive was his energy shifts.


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All things that Solar have done, and how shall I out this... I guess you can say that he then require atoms in order to manipulate a substance would he then for instance be capable of manipulating that substance, Solar manipulates energy on a higher level.


Actually Solar does his feats in a similar fashion. If he is not moving energy from one place to another, he is manipulating atoms as well to makes ends meet.. But that’s his character, that’s his power Solar has a direct affinity. So yeah, I would say he manipulates energy on a higher level, and with greater ease.

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I get it too 3 out of 5 times, and the Illusion from you scan didn't work out very well from my point of view, He wasn't the first time but it still didn't work quiet well, seeing as how technology was required to be capable of locating Solar so evasive was his energy shifts. [/B]

Well no it didn’t because Harada pointed out it was an illusion, and Solar proceeds to attack blindly. He then realizes: Oh look its not Gayle, just some chick from the Strip Bar. It was an illusion after all.

For all intents and purposes, as much as Solar can look at things on a different perspective. He cant tell apart real from illusion right away.


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Actually Solar does his feats in a similar fashion. If he is not moving energy from one place to another, he is manipulating atoms as well to makes ends meet.. But that’s his character, that’s his power Solar has a direct affinity. So yeah, I would say he manipulates energy on a higher level, and with greater ease.


Well no it didn’t because Harada pointed out it was an illusion, and Solar proceeds to attack blindly. He then realizes: Oh look its not Gayle, just some chick from the Strip Bar. It was an illusion after all.

For all intents and purposes, as much as Solar can look at things on a different perspective. He cant tell apart real from illusion right away.


That was just the point I was trying to bring forth, to ask you why you think that Solar wouldn't be capable of manipulating the energy flow in X-man for instance???

Solar already knew it was a illusion the dragon just pointed out that a Illusion can be as real as the real world as the dragons say, "imagination can shape reality of the world as you should know" ore something like that. But he didn't dare to take the risk for what if it wasn't a illusion.


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That was just the point I was trying to bring forth, to ask you why you think that Solar wouldn't be capable of manipulating the energy flow in X-man for instance???

Solar already knew it was a illusion the dragon just pointed out that a Illusion can be as real as the real world as the dragons say, "imagination can shape reality of the world as you should know" ore something like that. But he didn't dare to take the risk for what if it wasn't a illusion.


Because he still has to overwhelm X-Man control over his TK. Unless this is sans issue 60 Solar or Solar after eating a sun. His power and X-Man power seems equal. Other wise, Solar would simply overwhelm X-Man the way Qabiri did.

You see you just fortified what I clamed. Even after the lady tells him its an illusion, and Harada tells him yet again. Solar couldn’t tell real from fake.


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Originally posted by Galan007
As far as not having the power to create a world goes:

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Wow, talk about misleading.
Helen (half of Solar) sacrificed her self to trigger the mechanism that lead to the creation of another black hole.
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http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/7639/solar19af8.jpg

The scan the proceeds the one you posted, it servers explains what Solar did. He didn’t create a world, just countered the effects of the mechanism.

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http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/6526/solar23ab9.jpg

So yeah their goes the re-creation of the world. roll eyes (sarcastic)


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Even if what you said was true, that feat alone is something X-Man can't do.

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Even if what you said was true, that feat alone is something X-Man can't do.


I know, but then again its not counted: stick out tongue


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Because he still has to overwhelm X-Man control over his TK. Unless this is sans issue 60 Solar or Solar after eating a sun. His power and X-Man power seems equal. Other wise, Solar would simply overwhelm X-Man the way Qabiri did.

You see you just fortified what I clamed. Even after the lady tells him its an illusion, and Harada tells him yet again. Solar couldn’t tell real from fake.


And how is that going to be a problem for Solar???

Well my intention was to show that Solar knew it was a illusion, that was my claim, also based on that dragons statement it seems like Solar is capable of Reality warping :srug:


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And how is that going to be a problem for Solar???

Well my intention was to show that Solar knew it was a illusion, that was my claim, also based on that dragons statement it seems like Solar is capable of Reality warping :srug:


Not knowing who or where your enemy is, makes for a powerful tool.


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