Ok Ill use your kind of logic. You said I twist things and put my own spin on it.
Alright he put his own wrong spin off on something. He said Yuga Khan soloed the fourth world but left out crucial details. For one it was explained in that story that a on cannot kill a father. That is the reason Darkseid could not oppose his fathers will. Thats kind of a cheap way to defeat your opponent. So really the only reason he defeated Darkseid was because he couldnt act. It wasnt a true victory because Darkseid couldnt engage his father. He also cut off the new gods from their power source and defeated the bulk of them powerless. How is that amazing?
Superman could defeat them powerless so why I am supposed to be awed when Yuga does it. That and Darkseiud couldnt kill him as he is his father.
Doomsday beat Darkseid powered and he had no new god law holding him back. None of the new gods were depowered or cut off from their power source as well.
So it seems Trickster took some things out of context.
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No I didn't. The sheer level of power required to accomplish that feat is beyond any skyfather in existence. He forced his way past the source wall by sheer power. Doomsday had help in the form of Henshaw and bad writing.
God damn it, do you understand how hard it is to cut off the source's power? No new god or entity in the history of DC has ever cut off all the new gods from the source using their own power. Yuga is the being in the history of DC to do that.
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Ok so it isnt easy to do. Do you realize how easy it would be to beat the new gods after you cut off their power source. Ds wasnt allowed to even attempt to defeat him because of the patricide clause.
Its funny that all you can say is bad writing when I bring up a valid point you dont agree with. Its canon. Again Yuga didnt defeat anyone fully powered and darkseid wasnt even allowed to engage him. Fact!
Nope can't say as I do. Do you have any frame of reference to make the feat quantifiable?
Wait a second, to my knowledge Surfer is the only being in the history of Marvel to successfully channel the energies of the Crunch, should we automatically consider him to be heads and tails over most of DC's big guns because of it? By the same token, Hulk is the only being I've ever seen keep a Matter and an Anti-Matter sphere separate through strength alone, so does that automatically make him stronger than bricks of DC?
Don't get me wrong because I'm not saying that the feat isn't impressive, it's just that with no frame of reference to go by there's no telling HOW impressive it is.
Also, wasn't the feat accomplished off-panel?
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Don't get to used to it. I'm not on anywhere near as often as I used to be and I might still be getting divorced so I could disappear at practically any time.
Well heres to a better tomorrow. Remember be positive and have some fun on here. I tend to forget about the real world problems while I am on here(although that isnt always a good thing) but sometimes it is. This is a wonderful escape and relieves stress.
Anyways if you still arent feeling great reread a Thanos story as your day is certain to brighten up.
Thanos lasted quite a while with Odin in asgard. The Surfer was oneshotted and couldnt hang with the heavyweight while it was a testament to Thanos' durability.
I think both Odin and Thanos could take Yuga as he has lacks impressive battle feats.
By that logic we can also assume Thanos>TOAA because TOAA doesn't have as many feats or on-panel defeats over top tiers right? Oh by the way the only reason Thanos lasted was due to Odin putting very little effort, he was toying with him for the entire fight.
Yuga I saw on panel and it was admitted that Darkseid had the power to kill him he just couldnt use it. Thanos is more powerful than Darkseid therefore he wins.
Odin wasnt toying around with him and paid him great respect and even pulled out Gungir. He still oneshotted the Surfer but couldnt put Thanos down in Asgard.
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But Thanos couldn't do anything to even affect Odin. You make it seem like they were on the same level but they weren't. If that were like in a fighting match were they base it on who had more decisive hits Odin was the clear victor.
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The reason trick never uses any other fallacies is because he never debates outside of ridiculing people.
Did I ever say he was wrong?
At least he made the effort.
Never said he wasn't. But if someone had no knowledge of the characters involved, I would have done much more to support my case then he had. He did nothing but call me stupid.
This is the third time you've attacked a point I never made in the first place... yes he was right. But he did nothing to support his case. Guessing is not debating.
forgive me for butting in, but what gobbldegook is this you speak that the ig wielder can beat the spectre? It says right in DC universe 0 that the spectre can do anything he well pleases if it's right. I'm paraphrasing, and that the soul tied to it must understand that. There was no soul in the spectre so of course it wasn't operating at maximum capacity. and the spectre has merged and became god. the wielder of the ig couldn't even defy the will of the lt. or don't you remember when adam warlock destroyed the concepts and the lt simply remade them. had the ig been as powerful as you make it, the concepts wouldn't exist any more and the lt wouldn't have ever known what they were in order to remake them. a
and then you think thanos can take superman prime. what in the world. thanos can't even beat the justice league. let alone an entire world full of heroes. and superman prime is about to fight 3 different versions of the legion. thanos would be wishing he could die if he fought just 3 sets of monels, ultra boys, and element lads. i dare say on a good day, superman could stalemate thanos.
thanos is more powerful than darkseid? heavens no. darkseid could go back in time and simply kill thanos's mother. how would thanos counter that? he doesn't have that kind of power.
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No new god or entity in the history of DC has ever cut off all the new gods from the source using their own power. Yuga is the being in the history of DC to do that.
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