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Su-amped or sun-dipped Superman gets destroyed. Onslaught can blink a red sun in his face. He could create legions of villains to screw around with him like he did to the FF. He could use subtle telepathy to make him see illusions like he did to Thing and Hulk on separate occasions. He could could cause his power to feedback onto himself like he did to the X-Men. Enough with the spite threads.
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Sundipped Superman tanked entropy and moved Warworld. He was basically near skyfathers levels if not higher.
2nd, Onslaught is one of the most overrated people in comics. The level of opposition he faced is nowhere an indication that he can deal with someone on this level.
Telepathic illusions fooling Hulk&Thing? Ouuu, so scary. Nevermind that Superman regularly throws off TP and other attacks by sheer will.
Legions to screw around with the FF? Brainiac-13 threw legions of himself with entropy power at Superman, Superman rammed through them.
Powerfeedback on the Xmen? The mere fact that you're mentioning a B or C-list team like them is proof that you're reaching. Besides, what good is power feedback? Superman tanks Supernovas, planet exploding, red suns, and high end heralds like Henshaw, Hal Jordan, and Orion.
Onslaught had the potential, but not the feats. Sundipped Superman isn't a slight boost, it's a rediculous Pre-Crisis level one.
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After Doom's Rogue/Vision attack weakened his control, while trying to maintain a psionic storm against all the other heroes keeping them at bay, then yes, Onslaught got his armor cracked. And he still wasn't beaten after that. Since when does Superman get Doom's genius or battle plan, or get dozens of other heroes to distract Onslaught? And what does he do when he turns into his psionic form? And what does he do if Onslaught just decides to blink a red sun in his face? It's not like Onslaught is sentimental to care about collateral damage.
Thor contained a blast that would have destroyed 1/4th of the universe. Captain Atom actually remade a universe. Hulk became the nexus for the energy that connected two universes. Silver Surfer absorbed the energies of billions of souls. Everybody has their heyday. It doesn't make them skyfather.
Onslaught is basically, what you see, what you get. He was an amalgam of Xavier, Magneto, Nate Grey and Franklin Richards. Are you kidding me?
Onslaught used the telepathic illusions in the middle of battle to distract heroes. In the middle of battle, he would subtley slip suggestions in and out of their minds to cause them either to fight themselves or fight thin air. Superman is not immune to telepathic suggestion and has never broken out of them instantly. A few seconds are all that Onslaught needs. Hell, he doesn't even need a few seconds. He wasn't even tired after blinking a sun into existence. It's not like he needs reprieve or prep time.
I used the words "screw around" very purposefully. The point of conjuring old villains is not to beat Superman, but to distract him. Once again, I don't even know why he would need to distract him.
Reaching? Onslaught caused Cyclops beams to feedback into his eyes. He wasn't even firing his beams. What's stopping him from causing Superman's heat vision to feedback into his eyes? Superman tanks supernovas and red suns? This I have to see. Show it to me. Superman got his tuckus handed to him by Henshaw until Supergirl and Powergirl helped him. He's also matched fairly evenly against Green Lanterns. Throwing out pretty words like high end heralds means nothing to an entity that everybody agrees is at least high-end transcendant.
Onslaught has no feats? Did you even read Onslaught at all? He blinked a sun into existence. Who does that? Who has ever created a sun from nothing? And slapping labels like pre-Crisis to sundipped Superman is both meaningless and utterly misplaced. This conversation is as retarded as the one where you argued that sundipped Superman had a very decent shot at beating Odin.
Onslaught with the combine powers of Xavier, Magneto, Xman, Franklin Richards, this is so spite it's not even funny. With the powers of franklin alone Onslaught can warp reality on a Celestial level, with combine mutants powers of Xman and Xavier you are talking about Telepathic, Telekinesis, Telekinetic, Phsycokensie, and top it off with magneto powers, Onslaught would give superman a stroke.
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Sep 3rd, 2008 06:54 PM
Nevermind that Superman regularly throws off TP and other attacks by sheer will. 
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