Why argue with you thinking that both wonder woman and superman could fight at light speed when there is no on panel proof. By the way goku dont need to fight at light speed but I know one thing his combat speed is>>>>>>>>>>>anyone on the jla.
no. I can't see Goku Doing what Diana did with the shattered god. I also Can't see goku putting back together a city in minutes. Which means Superman and Wondy's hand eye speeds are greater than Goku's.
Like I said before, gokus COMBAT speed feats are greater then superman but if you want to play it like that. I cant see superman or wonder woman in the heart of a blast and basically jump up and outrace the blast, not even getting touched. Or how about goku moving so fast that blast that make it to them moon instantly, 100's of them being shot at him and hes dodging them so fast that it appears as if he standing still.
Or how about a blast being shot at a small ship that bulma and trunks is in and trunks that was standing on the ground while the blast was almost at the ship fly up, grab bulma and baby trunk and by the time the blast hit the ship trunks is on the ground.
How about this one, goku and frieza fight so fast that they made a 5 minute fight out of a 10 manga books.
I could also bring up gohun and super buu fighting so fast that the rocks that they busted through in the mountains didnt even touch the ground before the fight was over with. Every rock was staying in one spot.
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what are you talking about? Wondy and superman had an entire book that was only 1 min 56 seconds. Superman fought Amazo and fought off his radiation attack in 3/10's of a second. Read more dc. it's good for you.
Do you not see the difference. Goku made a 10 comic book out of a 5 minute fight. Thats>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>superman and wonder woman fight, especially with everything that went on. They were fighting, talking, and moving just that fast. Noone in comics has done that besides them. Every move that was made and everything that was said in that fight would have lasted for days if it was any other character, including superman but goku and frieza did all of that in five minutes. Thats insane.
And I love dc, I basically read nothing but jla and superman comics, Im a manager at a comic book store.
Nothing superman did to amazo was impressive. His speed blitz wasnt impressive and it wasnt something that I couldnt even see classic rogue not being able to do.
I almost forgot to add this, max lord seen the entire superman, wonder woman fight, no humans during the time goku was a child was able to see any of dragonball characters movements.
Wow! That's it? Superman has already moved faster than the eye can see in combat against a team of superhumans.
As an earlier poster said you should read more of the subject matter so you have a better idea of the actual displays, if you start making sweeping comments you come off ignorant.
Supes has already moved fast enough that he was invisible, fast enough to do all sorts of crap with his speed like create air vaccums with moving air. He's already clocked speeds where his opponents couldn't see him let alone react to what he was doing.
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Why did some japanese anime character get into the debate? DBZ guys don't even move lightspeed, they are nowhere near top tier in speed, strength and durability.
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Who said anything bout being invisible to speedsters? DBZ has no speedsters on per with Superman, Flash or any top tier speedster, so what do speedsters have to do with anything.
And a good example of Supes moving so fast he was invisible to his opponents which I keep giving is Action Comics # 775.
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Superman beat Dominus, that's above Thanos by a mile.
A>B>C right?
I guess you didn't read the story then? Max Lord had been working on Superman's mind, breaking down his defenses since he helped rebuild the Justice League. You know when that Justice League storyline started? 1987. He'd been working on Superman's mind for nearly 20 years, little by little.
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To add a bit to that.. Superman has a lot of similar tech to Thanos and yet does just fine in random encounters without it compared to Thanos who usually knows what he is going to deal with ahead of time.
Shazaman ftw.
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Well we do know one thing, goku move a lot faster then the speed of sound since krillin, yamcha, and tien was running at 1000 mps during there training in the regular dragonball era and goku after his training with po po speed wsa >>>>>krillin, yamcha, and tien during that time period.