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The only reason Genis/Entropy were able to affect Eternity in that instance,
was because Eternity's time to be re-created had arrived.
Genis himself admits,
that if Eternity would not have been in this predicament,
they wouldn't have been able to even bound Eternity let alone kill em.
Still though,
we can't take away from the fact that Genis did destroy all that space-time regardless,
only catch is that Eternity had to be in his death-throes first.
But let's not forget friends,
that aside,
Genis did have the potential to obliterate space-time,
proven during HOM when Wanda accelerated his potential
which allowed him to blink a universe in and out.
Further proven later on when he transitioned into Photon,
and was seen in the future eliminating all realities.
The Heart of the Universe, doesn't mean he has access to the same power as Thanos does.
I've never seen him show the ability to access it.
As I recall, he is referring to another power source either way.
So even at full power he obviously won't be as powerful as Thanos was in anyway.
What?
I'm confused. Are you saying that my statement that Genis-Vell calling himself God is a lie, is untrue?
That doesn't make sense.
Yes he was destroyed by Genis-Vell, but I was pointing out that there was circumstances in play, that is all.
I never disputed the fact that Eternity was destroyed. I know that, but there were circumstances in play that allowed that to happen.
It was Entropy's destiny, in the cosmic drama, to destroy Eternity. It was time, also Eternity was willing hence why they were able to bound it, and it was Eternity's time.
So like I said, either Eternity was obviously reduced significantly, or it's transition period had come, and that's why it happened.
You get what I'm trying to say?
I said there are two possibilities yesterday as I recall. It was either weakened severely by bondage etc. or seeing as how it was willing, plus it was time for the transition, that is what allowed Eternity, the embodiment of time and space to be destroyed by such beings.
Those are the two scenarios I said that are possible if I recall that make sense to me.
It was Eternity's time to die or something along those lines, and it was willing hence why they were able to bound it. So either circumstances allowed it to happen, or he was weakened. I personally go for the former.
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Do you have a better explanation? I know you've probably read the issue, so...on the previous page, he was telling Magus about his cosmic awareness. And on that page (scan posted) he says its because his soul is part of the living Heart of the Universe. Now, we know Genis' cosmic awareness is omniversal, so he couldn't have been playing a metaphor game and using 'Heart of the Universe!' in a literal, strictly universal sense.
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Wasnt the "Heart of the universe" just a name that thanos coined for the "Heart of the infinite" energy source? I mean Genis was clearly talking about the universe and its sentience, hence the references to its living soul etc. I would think it more likely then that he was referring to Eternity/Infinity.
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Same thing.
Why would he be referring to the universe, when he was using the 'living heart of the universe' line to explain to Magus his cosmic awareness, which is omniversal in scale?
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The same reason that "omniverse" ,"multiverse" and "universe" are used interchangeably. Still the point is that he seemed to be referring to the universe/multiverse/omniverse or whatever u want to call it in regards to its embodiment and totality. Therefore its not very likely that he was talking about the HOTU itself.
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Exactly. The HOTU was obviously called 'Universe' when it was in fact omniversal. Genis was speaking about something which was omniversal, using the same HOTU reference.
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Yes but the HOTU is an independent energy source. Genis wasnt refferring to such but rather was referring to the "cosmos" in its totality. That would be Eternity/Infinity.Whether they/it embodies a universe/multiverse/omniverse is up to the writers choice of words.
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Right. Okay. But how does Genis keep his powers when Eternity is destroyed, like he clearly did, if that's in fact where he gets them from? Also, its very weird to think Genis' soul is a core part of the abstract Eternity, or that his Cosmic Awareness comes from there - considering he seems to have better cosmic awarness than Eternity himself. And lastly, why assume 'the living Heart of the Universe' is referring to Genis when he says it, while Eternity is not referenced at all?
To me, it seems like a big jump in logic. And again, if his soul is part of the core of Eternity, and Eternity was killed (as Genis in fact did do), then...why was Genis still alive/powered?
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