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juggy's been owned by the hulk a lot more times than not.
the wwh fight was juggy's best showing before getting humiliated.


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yes In the WWH/Juggernaut fight Hulk was dishing out some damage but he was on the losing end no doubt. It was even shown when they tested strength against one another that Juggernaut was superior. I hate how Quanchi interprets that fight. Like Juggernaut was of no consequence.
No, he wasn't. He dented the juggernaut's helmet and bled. Whoopty doo. It's the Hulk. If you think causing him to bleed is getting the better of him you need to read some more Hulk.

No, it wasn't. Hulk redirected the momentum underground. He held his ground and made his intentions known from the start. He got to prof. x and dismissed the juggernaut casually.


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juggy's been owned by the hulk a lot more times than not.
the wwh fight was juggy's best showing before getting humiliated.


Humiliated?

Cain didn't have a scratch on him.


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Why do you call him emo?

His entire planet was destroyed when he was out saving the Multiverse. Prime is entitled to be as angry or sad as he wants to.


WWH was the real emo.

"I hate you allalmost as much as I hate myself!"

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No, he wasn't. He dented the juggernaut's helmet and bled. Whoopty doo. It's the Hulk. If you think causing him to bleed is getting the better of him you need to read some more Hulk.

No, it wasn't. Hulk redirected the momentum underground. He held his ground and made his intentions known from the start. He got to prof. x and dismissed the juggernaut casually.


No it wasn't what? When you saw the ground it was shown that WWH was being pushed back. Also he didn't "redirect the momentum", he moved out the way Juggernaut then continued in a straight line.


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Humiliated?

Cain didn't have a scratch on him.


Of course not-fully powered classic Juggernaut is totally invulnerable to any purely physical force-while Hulk just has high durability. That being said I reckon in terms of raw strengh, a totally enraged Hulk is stronger of the 2.

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Yes, he would have done so. He was trying to restrain himself and tearing apart the eastern seaboard by taking steps.

It all happened in ww hulk. You should read it some time. No one ever said anything about trion until now.


Dude, the Hulk was completely fine. His healing factor was off the charts. he healed immediately from a broken neck after his normal power levels returned. Juggs was just an obstacle and not very difficult one. Juggs couldn't even beat him after he went through two teams of mutants and a depowered Juggernaut once already.


I mentioned Trion ever since I stated my first post in this thread. Trion Juggernaut is Peak Juggernaut.

And Cain was completely invulnerable during their fight. Hulk felt pain and bled, Cain didn't. How was he not difficult to beat when Hulk couldn't harm him or stop him? He was only able to BFR him and that was his only option. And using Depowered Cain's defeat as a feat of his strength is like me saying Cain is the shit because he beat the hell out of Banner.


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Humiliated?

Cain didn't have a scratch on him.
humiliated as in getting bfr's like a trucker's piss bottle on the highway....again.

last time it happened, hulk did it by accident, this time hulk did it after juggy got some licks in and the hulk realized he was wasting time.

and the lowest humiliation was the war hulk incident, no bfr but juggernaut probably wishes he was instead of getting threatened with his life after shitting all over his credo.


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juggy's been owned by the hulk a lot more times than not.
the wwh fight was juggy's best showing before getting humiliated.


Yes true Hulk has more victories over him, but that's usually due to an already existing amp or outside source. The only fight they had under base power was their first fight where Cain lost due to the X-Men. I don't count his victory over Prof Hulk as a victory over The Hulk because he's weaker than his usual svage base form.


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humiliated as in getting bfr's like a trucker's piss bottle on the highway....again.

last time it happened, hulk did it by accident, this time hulk did it after juggy got some licks in and the hulk realized he was wasting time.

and the lowest humiliation was the war hulk incident.


Only, the person who's really being humiliated is the Hulk.

Not a single scratch on Cain. Couldn't even ruffle his hair....


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If I were in his place I would be a hella lot angrier.


he has a right to be angry, and i doubt anyone could argue with that. it's what he did with that anger that's the problem, imo.


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he has a right to be angry, and i doubt anyone could argue with that. it's what he did with that anger that's the problem, imo.


Killed some jokers who picked a fight with him?

Connor Kent was acting like a pussy and Superboy Prime started a fight with him. When low metas and street levelers attack someone who's equal to Superman and inexperienced, people die.


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erm

if cain had a wife and she asked him how his day went, and he says: "oh, the hulk casually tossed me away again. but hey, at least my hair wasn't mussed!" i'd say divorce papers would be issued.

and the hulk looks pretty healthy after fighting him also, not much of an issue really.


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Yes true Hulk has more victories over him, but that's usually due to an already existing amp or outside source. The only fight they had under base power was their first fight where Cain lost due to the X-Men. I don't count his victory over Prof Hulk as a victory over The Hulk because he's weaker than his usual svage base form.


To be fair Prof/Merged Hulk has a higher base strength level than Savage-but his much higher intelligence level means his strength doesn't amp as quickly. Cain knocked Merged Hulk before he could get to Cains level of strength

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erm

if cain had a wife and she asked him how his day went, and he says: "oh, the hulk casually tossed me away again. but hey, at least my hair wasn't mussed!" i'd say divorce papers would be issued.


Hey, I guess it beats being burnt to a crisp because your husband was so stupid that he had to attack the interstellar spaceship.


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erm

if cain had a wife and she asked him how his day went, and he says: "oh, the hulk casually tossed me away again. but hey, at least my hair wasn't mussed!" i'd say divorce papers would be issued.

and the hulk looks pretty healthy after fighting him also, not much of an issue really.


If Cain had a wife it would be Banner's Mama


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No it wasn't what? When you saw the ground it was shown that WWH was being pushed back. Also he didn't "redirect the momentum", he moved out the way Juggernaut then continued in a straight line.
The writer's interview was put up on herochat. He redirected the momentum in this fight. it was also painfully obvious, but I guess not to you.


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Killed some jokers who picked a fight with him?

Connor Kent was acting like a pussy and Superboy Prime started a fight with him. When low metas and street levelers attack someone who's equal to Superman and inexperienced, people die.


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Of course, Prime was the one punching


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I mentioned Trion ever since I stated my first post in this thread. Trion Juggernaut is Peak Juggernaut.

And Cain was completely invulnerable during their fight. Hulk felt pain and bled, Cain didn't. How was he not difficult to beat when Hulk couldn't harm him or stop him? He was only able to BFR him and that was his only option. And using Depowered Cain's defeat as a feat of his strength is like me saying Cain is the shit because he beat the hell out of Banner.
I responded to someone else and saw no sign of Trion. I haven't read about trion so I can't comment on Trion.


Cain is more durable no one said otherwise. Hulk has a healing factor and just went through two teams, juggernaut once already, and then he easily dismissed him like he was a momentary distraction and nothing more.

Juggernaut is very durable and Hulk wasn't there to crush the Juggernaut. he put up a deadline and wanted to get to prof. x asap. If he had been there for juggernaut he wouldn't have gotten off so easily.


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