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So Galactus has no cosmic awareness. According to you, cosmic awareness can be cancelled out by Reed Richards IQ? Is this the standrad you're prepared to live by?
It's inconsistent writing but he can gets caught off guard all the time. The guy turned tech on Tyrant when he has control over tech yet you say he has ca and nothing ever catches him off guard. Quit being ridiculous.


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That's PIS,right? Also, CIS?


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It's inconsistent writing but he can gets caught off guard all the time. The guy turned tech on Tyrant when he has control over tech yet you say he has ca and nothing ever catches him off guard. Quit being ridiculous.


Krona punched Galctus TFO with no tech. BTW. laughing


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Sorry to come out of the lurking left field Quanch, but Krona has to win this. He was written this way, case closed.


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superior willpower to a guardian of the universe. laughing


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Catching anyone off guard means they are easier to beat. Common sense.
Like When DD caught DS off gaurd in Hunter Prey? Your Double standards ae now becoming epic.

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So Galactus has no cosmic awareness. According to you, cosmic awareness can be cancelled out by Reed Richards IQ? Is this the standrad you're prepared to live by?
For him it is.


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JLA/Avengers garbage is only rivaled in horse by Marvel vs DC,
that, or Tom & Jerry newspaper skits.

In this ridiculous asinine story DC & Marvel share the same Multiverse.

Krona defeats some of the most powerful items in both Marvel & DC
with the power of two alternate universes, and DC's entropy. laughing

Krona needs 12 weapons to subdue entities that have been cracked by far less.
(the UN can erase Eternity's present existence and the IG can stomp and/or replace him)
If Kismet is supposed to be the equal to his fallacious alternate Eternity,
then she goes too, since those two items alone can get the job done.

Anyhow, Thanos conjures up Flash and Hawkeye for FTW. smile


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JLA/Avengers garbage is only rivaled in horse by Marvel vs DC,
that, or Tom & Jerry newspaper skits.

In this ridiculous asinine story DC & Marvel share the same Multiverse.

Krona defeats some of the most powerful items in both Marvel & DC
with the power of two alternate universes, and DC's entropy. laughing

Krona needs 12 weapons to subdue entities that have been cracked by far less.
(the UN can erase Eternity's present existence and the IG can stomp and/or replace him)
If Kismet is supposed to be the equal to his fallacious alternate Eternity,
then she goes too, since those two items alone can get the job done.

Anyhow, Thanos conjures up Flash and Hawkeye for FTW. smile

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Krona defeats some of the most powerful items in both Marvel & DC
with the power of two alternate universes, and DC's entropy. laughing

Krona needs 12 weapons to subdue entities that have been cracked by far less.
(the UN can erase Eternity's present existence and the IG can stomp and/or replace him)
If Kismet is supposed to be the equal to his fallacious alternate Eternity,
then she goes too, since those two items alone can get the job done.

Anyhow, Thanos conjures up Flash and Hawkeye for FTW. smile


I thought JLA/Avengers was the definitive crossover. I didn't agree with some of the fight outcomes, like Thor having trouble with Firestorms containment field, but the story and epicness, along with nice little touches like making Metron and Grandmaster the real stars of the show, having Cap kick Prometheus's ass when he's using Batmans skills and his tricks, and giving us BATROC, make Marvel vs DC not even fit to wipe it's rear...

Anyways, as to the current argument: Just because Krona had all twelve weapons at his disposal, doesn't mean he "needed" to use all twelve to subdue them.

Also keep in mind, the IG would've been useless to subdue Kismet, seeing the gauntlet only affects 616 or the Marvel Multiverse.

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I thought JLA/Avengers was the definitive crossover. I didn't agree with some of the fight outcomes, like Thor having trouble with Firestorms containment field, but the story and epicness, along with nice little touches like making Metron and Grandmaster the real stars of the show, having Cap kick Prometheus's ass when he's using Batmans skills and his tricks, and giving us BATROC, make Marvel vs DC not even fit to wipe it's rear...

Anyways, as to the current argument: Just because Krona had all twelve weapons at his disposal, doesn't mean he "needed" to use all twelve to subdue them.

Also keep in mind, the IG would've been useless to subdue Kismet, seeing the gauntlet only affects 616 or the Marvel Multiverse.
The gauntlet hasn't shown to be only able to affect 616.It has affected multiple universe.

However at the time of the crossover wasn't the IG deactivated?

Also I wonder if they will ever bring the gauntlet back.


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And we don't know Krona only absorbed the power of two alternate universes. That's all we saw him absorb in the story, but we know he was operating for a long, long time since after he was banished from the DC universe, and before JLA/Avengers. There's really no way to determine how many universes he absorbed without being privy to his actions between the time he was banished, and the JLA/Avengers story.

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And we don't know Krona only absorbed the power of two alternate universes. That's all we saw him absorb in the story, but we know he was operating for a long, long time since after he was banished from the DC universe, and before JLA/Avengers. There's really no way to determine how many universes he absorbed without being privy to his actions between the time he was banished, and the JLA/Avengers story.
But does krona nto have IG,UN and other artifacts of the same power?How does thanos win to someone with his power + many many others.


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But does krona nto have IG,UN and other artifacts of the same power?How does thanos win to someone with his power + many many others.


He shouldn't.

If the powers didn't stack between at least a few of the items, Grandmaster wouldn't have bothered having the heroes gather them up. He could've made the entire contest about the IG, and one or two other items for Krona to use for subduing Kismet.

And even if it was only IG vs IG, I'd give the edge to the former Guardian with eons of experience using high level powers and studying even higher level powers.. Not to mention Guardian = will incarnate. So yeah, will vs will isn't in Thanos's favor here..

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I thought JLA/Avengers was the definitive crossover. I didn't agree with some of the fight outcomes, like Thor having trouble with Firestorms containment field, but the story and epicness, along with nice little touches like making Metron and Grandmaster the real stars of the show, having Cap kick Prometheus's ass when he's using Batmans skills and his tricks, and giving us BATROC, make Marvel vs DC not even fit to wipe it's rear...

The cosmological aspect of the story was complete

I could care less about the fan based outcomes.

Marvel and DC do NOT share the same Multiverse, or even Omniverse,
that right there drowns the story in fallacious vomit.
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Just because Krona had all twelve weapons at his disposal, doesn't mean he "needed" to use all twelve to subdue them.

Actually, if know the story, and on panel artwork,
he DID indeed use All 12 items to subdue that alternate Eternity and Kismet. (book 4)


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He shouldn't.

If the powers didn't stack between at least a few of the items, Grandmaster wouldn't have bothered having the heroes gather them up. He could've made the entire contest about the IG, and one or two other items for Krona to use for subduing Kismet.

And even if it was only IG vs IG, I'd give the edge to the former Guardian with eons of experience using high level powers and studying even higher level powers.. Not to mention Guardian = will incarnate. So yeah, will vs will isn't in Thanos's favor here..
Ok I know Krona is a uber beats but beating thanos in a test of wills?Thats a bit of a stretch.Even doom would have problems with that and might lose.


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The cosmological aspect of the story was complete

I could care less about the fan based outcomes.

Marvel and DC do NOT share the same Multiverse, or even Omniverse,
that right there drowns the story in fallacious vomit.

Actually, if know the story, and on panel artwork,
he DID indeed use All 12 items to subdue that alternate Eternity and Kismet. (book 4)

Is it really necessary to be so anal about cosmology? erm

I was also puzzled when they compared Kismet to Eternity but its not really that big of a deal.


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Is it really necessary to be so anal about cosmology? erm
Talk to a cosmologist and see what they say.Or a cosmotologist.


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And we don't know Krona only absorbed the power of two alternate universes. That's all we saw him absorb in the story, but we know he was operating for a long, long time since after he was banished from the DC universe, and before JLA/Avengers. There's really no way to determine how many universes he absorbed without being privy to his actions between the time he was banished, and the JLA/Avengers story.

The way we determine that is by reading.

Across the arc, at the beginning of every book it was confirmed that Krona destroyed/absorbed TWO Universes and nothing more, and now he was after his third and fourth,
(whatever DC Universe that housed those mainstream cats, and that alternate crap from Marvel)

I say "alternate" because Marvel has no spacial affiliation with DC.
So, whatever universe from Marvel was used, it was one that only exists in that story.


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The cosmological aspect of the story was complete

I could care less about the fan based outcomes.

Marvel and DC do NOT share the same Multiverse, or even Omniverse,
that right there drowns the story in fallacious vomit.


confused If they can't co-exist somehow, they can't have a crossover.

Technically, you're correct, but if we don't suspend disbelief enough to allow a way for them to be in the same comic, that means a crossover isn't possible. They simply can't meet without some shoehorning..

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Actually, if know the story, and on panel artwork,
he DID indeed use All 12 items to subdue that alternate Eternity and Kismet. (book 4)


He had all twelve items, and used all twelve items. That doesn't mean he NEEDED all twelve items.

Grandmaster collected them, Krona took them and used them. Would it make sense for him to discard the ones he didn't need, instead of going for broke?

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