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celeyhyga17
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Originally posted by CosmicComet
Take a palm sized magnet and try to pull back a dropped paper clip with it. You will succeed.

Now, say you drop a battleship, and try to pull it back from hitting the ground using the strongest continuous magnet in the world. Will it succeed? Hell no.


well of course u can't move a battleship just like that. duh..

u can feel the force of magnetism because it's obvious. lift a paperclip from the ground. feels as if there's no force. but it's obvious the pull of gravity because it stay's in one spot on the ground. now take a relatively weak magnet and place it on the ground. put a paperclip right over it. you can actually feel the force of magnetism. hey, I ain't going against my physics professor. it's troo gravity has greater potential when it involves objects with large masses.


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The point is simple.

One can't say magnetism is stronger than earth's field of gravity with the first example since the magnet will succeed in pulling in the paper clip, (as many people try to do), when the second example contradicts it entirely using the exact same gravitational field.

The point is what I said before, gravity's effect increases with greater mass, and at an extremely large rate; greater than magnetism's, and its pull stays consistent for a much longer distance than magnetism does.

Gravity > Magnetism. The scale doesn't have to get anywhere near 'celestial bodies' to prove that point.

Nova feats of gravity > Magneto's feats of magnetism.


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Shut up, man.

Magneto wins.


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Magneto is bytch made.

And he was born a damn dirty mutie to boot.


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Originally posted by CosmicComet
The point is simple.

One can't say magnetism is stronger than earth's field of gravity with the first example since the magnet will succeed in pulling in the paper clip, (as many people try to do), when the second example contradicts it entirely using the exact same gravitational field.

The point is what I said before, gravity's effect increases with greater mass, and at an extremely large rate; greater than magnetism's, and its pull stays consistent for a much longer distance than magnetism does.

Gravity > Magnetism. The scale doesn't have to get anywhere near 'celestial bodies' to prove that point.

Nova feats of gravity > Magneto's feats of magnetism.


http://www.buzzle.com/articles/magn...vs-gravity.html


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Thanks for producing an article that says exactly what I did, that gravity becomes greater with greater mass and magnetism's effect is more obvious only at smaller scales.


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Thanks for producing an article that says exactly what I did, that gravity becomes greater with greater mass and magnetism's effect is more obvious only at smaller scales.


I was trying to point out that magnetism is still relatively stronger than gravity as pointed out in paragraph 11 or 12. I just remembered what my physics prof gave as an example. Take a paperclip and drop it on the ground. It's clear there is gravitational force since the paperclip falls to the ground. Now take a relatively small magnet like a refrigerator magnet and place it over the paperclip. Guess what? The magnetic force produced by that small magnet will pull that clip off of the ground. In that little example of tug of war, the small ass magnet outshines the gravitational pull of the earth.


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Magnetism decreases in effect at a much quicker rate at equal distances when compared to Gravity


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Magneto can manipulate gravity.


Yep.


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^Nova still takes it

cool


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Well Erik can manipulate gravity on solar system scale...


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Magnetism decreases in effect at a much quicker rate at equal distances when compared to Gravity


But Magneto defies this rule as he is able do things like drawing on magnetic power from stars outside our solar system. His range is.. incredible. As also shown with the planet killer bullet feat.

Heck Magneto was even analyzed on Nat Geo (or was it discovery) and it was remarked that his power would not work in the real world because of this. So either comics physics are different (duh) or he cheats somehow.


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It doesn't matter, as I said, I was speaking from both points of view.

Magnetism is not as potent as Gravity. And within comics, Magneto's 'space cheese' feats are not on the level of Nova's.

Nova's shields give Magneto's a run for his money, not to mention he's a lot stronger, more naturally durable, and too fast for Magneto to keep track of.


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Well Erik can manipulate gravity on solar system scale...


Can u elaborate on this statement?


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edit.


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It doesn't matter, as I said, I was speaking from both points of view.

Magnetism is not as potent as Gravity. And within comics, Magneto's 'space cheese' feats are not on the level of Nova's.

Nova's shields give Magneto's a run for his money, not to mention he's a lot stronger, more naturally durable, and too fast for Magneto to keep track of.


Magneto is a legit team wrecker. Battles is more important than space cheese fts.


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It'd be a hell of a fight in a comic.

Given his sheer power output, I'd take Nova here. Slight majority, 6-7/10.


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Every herald leveler can be a team wrecker. Hell even Moonstone phucked up a team of X-men.

Yo celly, do you still have those Moonstone vs Rogue and various Xmen scans?

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Every herald leveler can be a team wrecker. Hell even Moonstone phucked up a team of X-men.

Yo celly, do you still have those Moonstone vs Rogue and various Xmen scans?


So every Herald can be a team wrecker with a team of Heralds on it and consistently at that. Magneto fought the Avengers more than once, a team with Thor and Ironman on it and he was winning.


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Compressed gravimetric pulse is pretty op.

Moonstone had more raw power, but Richard one shot her with that trick.

Wonder if Mags shields would be able to stop it?

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