Actually Sabe's appearance doesn't give a definitive hint whether he's lupine or feline, neither do his powers, which would roughly fit both.
Taking into account, that the main weapon of the canidae are fangs and their claws are comparatively blunt, whereas felidae use fangs as well as extremly sharp claws and feature a higher muscle efficiency, Sabes is (was, before that Romulus-arc) more likely feline than canine ... in traits as well as name.
Why would one have to explain how so many feral mutants exist with an entire new species? Have you ever counted how many mutant telepaths there are or telekinetics or pyrokinetics or superstrong or energy projectors? Would it be a good idea to create a seperate species for each of those mutant groups too? The more individuals a species features, the more likely it is, that some of them have similar characteristics. Actually that's the essential part of evolution: the more successful a trait is, the more often it can be found in a species.
Lupine-species = stupid idea and moronic execution!
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Maximus Lobo claimed to be a part of a mutant sub-species of feral, wolf-like mutants, whom he called The Dominant Species. He later tried to recruit Wolf Cub into his ranks, to no avail. A few years later, another mutant, Romulus claimed that some human mutants evolved from canines instead of primates. Mutants who were a part of this group were Romulus, Wolverine, Daken, Sabretooth, Wolfsbane, Wild Child, Thornn, and Sasquatch. Other likely candidates being X-23 and The Native. These groups appear to be one and the same.
Sadly it is.
Some idiot of an author thought: "Oh, look, there are numerous super-humans with more hair than usual and claws, fangs and animal-like senses. Let's make them a whole species of their own, that evolved from wolves parallel to humanity and its mutants.
Some of them may not be mutants or their features are rather feline, not to speak of the (un)likelyhood of lupines evolving into the exact shape of humanoid primates, but those nerdy readers will not notice anyway.
Oh, and to top it all, let's create a reeeaaaly cool traditional rivalry between a blond and a black haired one of this new species in order to partially explain the animosities between Logan and Creed."
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* the classification is unnecessary... maybe in the near future, they will retcon this retcon and will explain that this classification is only Maximus Lobo's interpretation... i don't know...
* how much more if Squirrel Girl is the one who's "full-powered"?
i already pm this Lobo is men arnt true mutants, I not even sure Lobo himself is. Lobo was talking about a race of engineered men. They arnt typical mutants. They were made that way.
It also has zero thing to do with wolverine lupin thing.
also they will not reconnt the wolverine lupin, thing it be impossible to do it now. They had exstansive plots around the entire concept and romulas. It also explains wolverines entire history and his true relationship with professor x (which I really enjoyed)
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Asside from his original design when he was a IF villain, sabre-tooth was never intented to be feline at all. In fact we know this to be true, becuase back during both characters developement, sabre-tooth was suposes to be wolverine father, but that idea was scratch. Wolverine was never even hinted to be feline. He was original suposes to be evolved from a wolverine, but that also was scratched. Wolverine has always been compared to either wolverines or wolves ) mostly wolves in characteristics. He never onces been compared to any type of feline.
yes before you say it I know wolverines are weasals.
Because wolverine from his earliest incarnation was never the same as other mutants (x-men). This has been hinted at numerous times over the years, that he infact is not like vast majority of mutants, but he was also not human. Also telepaths don't share the same physical characteristic or all have same interwining pasts. I really don't think the idea was that bad at all especially considering wolverines entire history. The way they went about it was stupid, however wolverines origins story made vastly more senses and gives you the reasoning behind it all.
also think the whole feral, thorn and sas part was retarded and glad it was completely ignored and never brought up again. Loeb exicution was god awful, origins did a much better job.
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I only mean, that Sabe's characteristics are almost as inconclusive as Logan's or Wildchild's. All three could come from many different animal families. But if there is a tendency, then Creed is more feline than canine due to what i earlier said. His choice of name only supports that.
Since neither Logan nor Victor were created with the intention to represent a specifically lupine mutant species, since they don't feature any specifically lupine characteristics AND since the human mutants, to which they initially belonged, do not have a doktrine of exact bequeathal of a mutation, it is false logic to reason Sabes has to be lupine because 'he was initially supposed to be the father of a supposed' to be wolverine-like mutant. Actually, if one uses the original intentions and views on mutants at the character's time of creation for argumentation, it would be more logical to assume, that since Logan was supposed to be wolverine-like and given the name Wolverine, Creed was given the name Sabretooth because he was supposed to be sabre-toothed-cat-like.
Wolverine was never the same as other mutants in character and history NOT biologically. Until the Romulus-arc his mutation was just as "normal" as any other mutant's.
Besides, IF the pure idea of a lupine race would not be stupid, because it would explain the multitude of feral mutants AND this particular group of mutants would justify a seperate species in contrast to other groups of mutants, because Logan has always been different, THEN all other feral mutants would have to be exactly that different too ... which they have never been discribed as.
1. All telepaths obviously share the same neurobiological traits. Just because these are anatomical/biochemical/physiological instead of morphological, doesn't mean they are less physical. Actually their power resemblance is more striking than that of the ferals.
2. An intervining past on the ferals' side is only shared by Sabes and Logan and would not make the ad hoc creation of an entire lupine species any more logical.
Not at all! Actually it is/was rather fun to debate this issue with you, since you are NOT comming off rude or overly emotional.
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Aug 29th, 2010 06:53 AM
well, i just felt the need to ask about this stuff to some of our comic gurus here... i'm not updated on comics nowadays... 
