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TI #4 Mantis mentions Thanos still recovering and how he recovered enough power so that they couldn't mindlock him. No where does it say he regained his full powers. In fact no where in the entire 6 issues does it say Thanos fully recovered, so it's likely that even when Thanos was facing Mar-vell he wasn't fully recovered. If you think he did, provide proof.


I'm having a debate with Quanchi. I'm aware of what was said and not said in the event.

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"On top of that...

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It's pretty simple, really. Drax has other powers that precent Thanos' natural Eternal-atom-control thing from working when he's around. Remember, Drax was created to kill Thanos. He probably couldn't beat Thor in a fight, heck, he'd have a tough time beating Wolverine perhaps, but Thanos he can kill."

-Andy Schmidt, Marvel editor

Drax's mere presence inhibits Thanos' ability to control his own molecules. So when Drax attacks Thanos his durability is always depowered. That's how Drax is Thanos' kryptonite according to the editor. So when Drax used the anti-matter bomb not only was Thanos not fully recovered, his durability and ability to control his own molecules was inhibited. That sounds pretty depowered to me.

This makes sense since tanking anti-matter really shouldn't be a problem with someone who can control their own molecules.


His referring to Annihilation is he not? That seemed to be an isolated incident (The whole glowing thing and ripping through force fields).

Unless he enters that mode again, I do not believe his inhibiting Thanos in anyway.


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I'm having a debate with Quanchi. I'm aware of what was said and not said in the event.



His referring to Annihilation is he not? That seemed to be an isolated incident (The whole glowing thing and ripping through force fields).

Unless he enters that mode again, I do not believe his inhibiting Thanos in anyway.


He is, but Drax is displayed in TI to still have the same imperative because he mentioned in TI how it's "engraved" into his soul, and it's also why Drax couldn't control or stop himself from attacking Thanos. This tells us that his anti-Thanos power's aren't in his control, and are automatic.

In Annihilation too Drax didn't turn on his "green glow" it just automatically turned on as soon as Thanos was near, and on top of that Drax couldn't control his behavior too. He attacked Thanos even knowing that Thanos was going to free Galactus. More proof his anti-Thanos powers are automatic.

*edit I just read TI #4 again and Mantis confirms that Drax's powers aren't under his concious control.

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the whole Drax thing shat all over the previous writer of Infinity watch when it was stated specifically and out right that Drax rage and need to fight Thanos had been reduced allowing Drax to behave in the presence of Thanos..


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the whole Drax thing shat all over the previous writer of Infinity watch when it was stated specifically and out right that Drax rage and need to fight Thanos had been reduced allowing Drax to behave in the precess of Thanos..
That all changed during Drax earth fall mini in which he was reborn twice into different incarnations.


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that still doesnt trumphs the manipulation of an all powerful being adam warlock when he was supreme..

the argument and excuse doesnt hold a drop of water being reborn..pfff....


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that still doesnt trumphs the manipulation of an all powerful being adam warlock when he was supreme..

the argument and excuse doesnt hold a drop of water being reborn..pfff....
You mean the power Warlock gave up and foresaked everything thing he did, and Adam only temp altered Drax whilst in the Infinty watch, Kronos created Drax to keep trying to destroy Thanos untill he did so.


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The effects of the IG remains unless consciously lifted even after losing the power.......

Kronos<<<<<<<<<Adam Warlock(IG)

i can point the a few alterations Adam Warlock made while supreme that stayed after he gave up the IG..

like i said you cant defend what they did... even with comic logic they just ignored it to write what they wanted to write or outright did not know.


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The effects of the IG remains unless consciously lifted even after losing the power.......

Kronos<<<<<<<<<Adam Warlock(IG)

i can point the a few alterations Adam Warlock made while supreme that stayed after he gave up the IG..

like i said you cant defend what they did... even with comic logic they just ignored it to write what they wanted to write or outright did not know.
Youre missing the simple part about Adam not changing Draxs sole reason for living, it was encoded into his DNA. warlock only made that stip for the Infinty Watch when Thanos was part of it.


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Thanos.

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Thanos still wins 10/10.


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Hammer time!!

Even though some here refuse to admit it, the team has the "goods" to defeat Thanos; especially if Thor is in full Warriors Madness...

Team 7/10...


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Hammer time!!

Even though some here refuse to admit it, the team has the "goods" to defeat Thanos; especially if Thor is in full Warriors Madness...

Team 7/10...
Like?


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The ability to absorb and redirect any amount of energy he uses against them?

The ability to go into full Warriors Madness mode and overwhelm him physically?

And, if it works...and there is no reason to believe it wont, Thor just might be able to 1 shot Thanos with Soul Suck.

So yeah...they have the goods to beat Thanos.


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Thanos shitstomps the team


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How are thor or brb going to do anything to thanos if surfer couldn't? I'm not trying to use ABC logic here, I'm just saying.

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The ability to absorb and redirect any amount of energy he uses against them?

The ability to go into full Warriors Madness mode and overwhelm him physically?

And, if it works...and there is no reason to believe it wont, Thor just might be able to 1 shot Thanos with Soul Suck.

So yeah...they have the goods to beat Thanos.
And how often has thor done this?

And how often doe he do this? And even if he does thanos has gone toe to toe with him with the PG. That would be above WM thor.

Please show thor quickly, with no prep, absorbing someone's soul. And please show it 3 times.

Answer my questions above and they do.


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And how often has thor done this?

And how often doe he do this? And even if he does thanos has gone toe to toe with him with the PG. That would be above WM thor.

Please show thor quickly, with no prep, absorbing someone's soul. And please show it 3 times.

Answer my questions above and they do.


When Thor had the power gem during the Blood and Thunder arc, every single time he tapped into it subconsciously, it was directly stated on panel that he was doing so...

NOT ONCE was this stated when Thor took on Thanos when he had the power gem...not one single time.

Thus, unless someone has definitive evidence to the contrary, Thor did not tap into the power gem when fighting Thanos...


As for Thor using Soul Suck, its a forbidden thing to do; which is directly stated on panel in the issue of Thor where he kills Loki with it...so no, unless some extreme circumstance exists, he wont use it.

BUT, this is a forum fight and not a comicbook...no PIS here or compelling story to write...so with Thanos being one evil muthaf****R who is beyond redemption, there is no reason for Thor not to destroy Thanos in this fashion.


Again, I firmly believe that the duo has the means to defeat Thanos; especially without PIS being involved...


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When Thor had the power gem during the Blood and Thunder arc, every single time he tapped into it subconsciously, it was directly stated on panel that he was doing so...

NOT ONCE was this stated when Thor took on Thanos when he had the power gem...not one single time.

Thus, unless someone has definitive evidence to the contrary, Thor did not tap into the power gem when fighting Thanos...


As for Thor using Soul Suck, its a forbidden thing to do; which is directly stated on panel in the issue of Thor where he kills Loki with it...so no, unless some extreme circumstance exists, he wont use it.

BUT, this is a forum fight and not a comicbook...no PIS here or compelling story to write...so with Thanos being one evil muthaf****R who is beyond redemption, there is no reason for Thor not to destroy Thanos in this fashion.


Again, I firmly believe that the duo has the means to defeat Thanos; especially without PIS being involved...
No it didn't.

Your previous statement is false so this is irrelevant

Your making the claim he wasn't. Prove he wasn't.

OK so irrelevant

In what fashion? Soul suck? Please show him doing this 3 times.

No they don't.


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Dude...I own and I read the entire Blood and Thunder arc several times; it was exactly as I stated.

Being on a ps3, I cant post scans, but ANYONE can verify this; it was NEVER stated anywhere in that comic that Thor fought Thanos (Silver Surfer 88 to be exact) that Thor was tapping into the power gem...

Unlike you Black Bolt, I actually I read everything I comment on; I dont have to sometimes go on what others say for information...


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Dude...I own and I read the entire Blood and Thunder arc several times; it was exactly as I stated.

Being on a ps3, I cant post scans, but ANYONE can verify this; it was NEVER stated anywhere in that comic that Thor fought Thanos (Silver Surfer 88 to be exact) that Thor was tapping into the power gem...

Unlike you Black Bolt, I actually I read everything I comment on; I dont have to sometimes go on what others say for information...
No it isn't. So if its not stated on panel it didn't happen? I guess surfer doesn't fly and the sky just moves. Or doom doesn't think he just builds random devices.

Why does it need to be stated if he had the gem and was obviously using it? Thanos 2 shots regular thor before. But now for some reason he's only stalemating him laughing out loud

SO do I. So please start using said information that you claim to have.


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