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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Stoic
Not sure if that would be viable for someone like the Hulk, The Vision tried to do something similar to the Hulk and wound up in agony, just to be pushed out. I think that a battle between the Hulk and Despero would end up as a physical confrontation, and not one where the Hulk's body was hijacked, as if from some evil spirit.
Despero and Vision are two entirely different beings and Despero being way more powerful.
Aug 26th, 2011 10:08 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by -Pr-
You mean the same issue where Xavier admitted that he deserved any punishment the Hulk gave him?
Sometimes I wonder if you're some sort of masochist... And the fact Hulk broke free of Xaviers mind assualt by jumping in a friggin pond...PIS or what.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by -Pr-
You mean the same issue where Xavier admitted that he deserved any punishment the Hulk gave him?
Sometimes I wonder if you're some sort of masochist...
But he still wanted to stop him though. The only reason he said that was because all of his efforts including the XMen failed at stopping Hulk. When he said that, he was basically at Hulks mercy until Juggernaut showed up.
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Aug 26th, 2011 10:09 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
Yes.
I'm confident on his physical abilties alone, but he has way more options than just physical strength. And the op said all powers.
Aug 26th, 2011 10:16 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
But he still wanted to stop him though. The only reason he said that was because all of his efforts including the XMen failed at stopping Hulk. When he said that, he was basically at Hulks mercy until Juggernaut showed up.
No, he didn't; that was the entire point of the comic: Xavier's guilt and his surrender. Or did you forget the part where Emma was screaming at Xavier to help?
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by -Pr-
No, he didn't; that was the entire point of the comic: Xavier's guilt and his surrender. Or did you forget the part where Emma was screaming at Xavier to help?
I remember that part. Do you think he put in a lil effort with Emma to stop Hulk telepathically or do you think it was all just her?
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
I remember that part. Do you think he put in a lil effort with Emma to stop Hulk telepathically or do you think it was all just her?
A bit of effort, perhaps, but nothing near his full power, like most of the people in that issue.
Then there's the fact that Despero had simultaneous control over: Aquaman, Martian Manhunter, Hal Jordan, Batman, to name a few, all of whom have impressive telepathic resistance.
And then, you know, this is WWH we're talking about. Where people are suddenly crapper than before or just generally forget their powers when fighting Hulk.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by -Pr-
A bit of effort, perhaps, but nothing near his full power, like most of the people in that issue.
Then there's the fact that Despero had simultaneous control over: Aquaman, Martian Manhunter, Hal Jordan, Batman, to name a few, all of whom have impressive telepathic resistance.
And then, you know, this is WWH we're talking about. Where people are suddenly crapper than before or just generally forget their powers when fighting Hulk.
I'm not responding to this. I don't agree with a lot of stuff you said in it.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
I'm not responding to this. I don't agree with a lot of stuff you said in it.
Everything I said happened on panel.
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Xavier said his rage is like an elemental force and it's what kept him out, Dr Strange came to same conclusion when he couldn't enter Hulks mind even with prep and Emma couldn't either. In the fairly recent (Red)Hulk #30 Xenmu the Titan said Hulk was immune to his tp for the same reason.
The stips stated current Hulk who is far more enraged than he was during WWH. Despero isn't overcoming that amount of rage.
Aug 27th, 2011 11:38 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by -Pr-
A bit of effort, perhaps, but nothing near his full power, like most of the people in that issue.
Then there's the fact that Despero had simultaneous control over: Aquaman, Martian Manhunter, Hal Jordan, Batman, to name a few, all of whom have impressive telepathic resistance.
And then, you know, this is WWH we're talking about. Where people are suddenly crapper than before or just generally forget their powers when fighting Hulk.
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Aug 27th, 2011 02:30 PM
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I'm no expert here, but wasn't V&V Despero soloing the Justice League? As in, made up of 3-4 people that would win majorities off of any Hulk. What could the Hulk's case possibly hold against that?
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Digi
I'm no expert here, but wasn't V&V Despero soloing the Justice League? As in, made up of 3-4 people that would win majorities off of any Hulk. What could the Hulk's case possibly hold against that?
Exactly; there is good reason to believe that Hulk could resist Despero's TP, but physically Hulk is outclassed here.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Simbon
Exactly; there is good reason to believe that Hulk could resist Despero's TP, but physically Hulk is outclassed here.
you have it ass-backwards.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by psycho gundam
you have it ass-backwards.
I can see why you might see it that way, PG:
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I can see why you might see it that way, PG:
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I can see why you might see it that way, PG:
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Digi
I'm no expert here, but wasn't V&V Despero soloing the Justice League? As in, made up of 3-4 people that would win majorities off of any Hulk. What could the Hulk's case possibly hold against that?
JLA AND JSA.
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Aug 27th, 2011 06:33 PM
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so wait
quote: (post ) Originally posted by -Pr-
And then, you know, this is WWH we're talking about. Where people are suddenly crapper than before or just generally forget their powers when fighting Hulk.
(untrue btw (maybe strange was an exception, but context fixes that..and knowledge of the past they share))
but the two leagues that clashed with despero didn't?
*hearty laugh*
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by psycho gundam
so wait
(untrue btw (maybe strange was an exception, but context fixes that..and knowledge of the past they share))
but the two leagues that clashed with despero didn't?
*hearty laugh*
It's not untrue imo.
And i never said the Leagues were fighting to the best of their ability. Despero still showed a clear physical advantage against more powerful opposition, though.
So check your "hearty laugh" at the door, please.
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