that wasn't summoning dummkopf. It was a metaphysical representation of a conflict between the MoD and his younger self. If it was a summoning then there would be a lot of dead characters as there was no one to resurrect them afterwards. So the MoD and Clyde's fight was them creating their champions... also we know it was a real fight because Reed was able to absorb real energy from the fight and redistribute it for seconds to the FF4... Oh and MoD is pretty casual at destroying universes when he actually does it and his multi-millenial sojourn is confirmed and he was pwning every universe he came across while he was at it. So all things considered I'm fairly certain he's come accross some pretty up their individuals trying to stop him and I'm pretty sure Eternity of the other universes would just sit around to be destroyed.
MoD comes it at number 1 on my list over Braddock, Jim and others. We'll never know 100% certainty how strong he was but considering it took himself, the combined power of their fight in the ff4 pummeling away at him and Doom who had been learning from him for a rather lengthy period of time.
1 - Marquis of Death
2 - Mad James Jaspers
3 - Adult Franklin Richards
4 - True Legion (David Haller)
5 - Jamie Bradock
We will be getting more info on Legion in the incoming months. On the other hand. If I wanted to extend the list, to the next 6-10.
6 - Darwin/Deadly Genesis Vulcan
Near limitless evolving ability, enough to usurp Hel's power.
7 - Proteus
Massive reality warping powers.
8 - Wanda
Hex magic is broken, and big enough to endanger the planet.
9 - Hope Summers
Can mimic any mutant power, or take control of them.
10 - New Sun
Massive energy manipulation, killed of all the known hero's in his reality.
1. Mad Jim Jaspers
2. Adult Franklin
3. Legion
4. Marquis of Death
5. Mr. M
Reason why Wanda isn't there is because of that phoenix-like entity in children's crusade altering her powers. Including her would mean including Jean Grey as well who doesn't seem that special base level.
That's very good and all but remember that hope mimiced Wanda's power (which hope normally amplifies) so we really don't know whether it's 1/2 or 1/3 or whatever percentage was Wanda's contribution to that feat. While impressive, that's waaay beyond her norm and what she's normally capable of drawing. That could be a high end feat but on average, she's not doing any planet wide stuff atm.
For the purposes of this thread, are you considering child Franklin a completely different character than adult Franklin? If so, I'd put him over Jamie, personally...
Case in point: child Franklin creating(what he perceived as) the Nexus of realities, along with ALL of the pocket realities within it: http://imgur.com/Ciahha4
Arcadia from X-Force - (Unknown-level, she definitely has reality warping abilities; and her power is implied to be universal, but she needed a certain stipulation to become a multiversal threat).
X-Force v1 #93: Rylor says that Moonstar has now the ability to tap into infinite universal energies (courtesy of Arcadia, back in issue #84, it was her who gave Moonstar that power):
There are quite several more, im having a hard time remembering them considering that they usually appear in one story (or a few). Although, most of them are mutants who possess reality warping abilities on a limited scale (like Proteus). But those are far from top tiers like MJJ, Jamie, Franklin, etc...
Does your ranking take into account that MJJ already spread his warp (where he has complete control), or not?
Makes a difference, imo. In a neutral ground, id give Jamie the edge, considering he empowered an alternate counterpart who casually warped a universe, and was also able to easily play with several realities (something MJJ can't do instantly, his warp takes time). Hell, id give Jamie a good chance even against MJJ with his warp (but eventually, the latter would win, imo), given that the Fury was resisting his reality warping abilities, and Jamie has demonstrated a resistance to reality warping, as well (in an issue of UXM, Jamie literally says that reality warpers like Proteus can't lay a finger on Betsy, since he made her immune). But on the other hand there's that weakness of Jamie's where a shape-shifter can resist him.
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