BT takes point blank bullets like they're nothing, survives an explosion that destroys a warehouse and walks around on fire without even noticing.. And he has a healing factor. He's very similar to Gorgon in durability and stats.
The thing is, I have no doubt Danny can take BT's head off. But, he usually only does the overkill attacks to mook Hydra henchmen or hand ninja.. In a comic story, he'd probably hold back, especially since him and Carlos are friends.. And if Carlos can tank Spidey all day, until he punches himself out, nothing less then lethal IF attacks will cut it. He'd need to go all out, Black Panther vibranium suit shredding attacks..
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I guess the important question here:
Could Iron Fist duplicate Spidey's performance without the Fist? Could he keep up with Carlos, in other words?
I think he has the speed feats, personally, and Carlos wasn't really portrayed as faster then Spidey anyways. He was shown as fast enough to tag Spidey occasionally, or grab him out of mid air, which is a speed level Rand's proven to be at himself.
So if Rand isn't outclassed by BT in speed (And I DO think Carlos can KO him), then it comes down to his striking power, vs Carlos's durability and healing factor..
And by modern portrayals, Black Tarantula's durability has a limit...
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problem with trying to gauge bt's speed in that spidey fight is that he simply knew spidey couldn't harm him so really, why both trying to avoid him? it's the same reason supes get tagged by bullets and other characters. now, if he HAD to avoid the attacks, his speed might be greater than has been shown. all of danny's high end feats aside, i don't think he's goon take too many of bt's solid shots before the tables turn quickly, and i don't see danny on average having bt's durability (like i don't see him having cage's). bt hits with cl50 strength, and has energy to attacks to boot. this is closer than i initially thought, but i still give bt the edge in range and durability. i call speed close enough to be a wash and punching power to danny. on average i think i'd still take bt for a very slight majority but i could see it being a split.
But theres no evidence that BT was taking hits from Spidey because he didnt bother to dodge. The way I saw it - Spidey's proven he's faster to the point he can land several attacks for each of BT's attack, its BT's durability that was the problem. And looking at IF speed feats combined with the MA skills (that Spidey lacked at the time) I dont see a reason why he wont land the first punch and going all out.. that's all it qould take really.
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could be i'm just not recalling the fight completely, but i remember having the sense that bt was more a juggernaut against spidey who just took everything he had (easily) and struck when he needed to. i always had the impression bt could have done a lot more than he did, but like i said, could be me just not remembering the fight clearly. i also don't see danny one-shotting bt. his durability and healing are too good. i see him doing what luke did in that scan--getting up po'd. it COULD happen, but i don't see that happening for the majority of danny's wins. i think he would win with constant strikes and attrition, like the way bt beat spidey. i don't think danny could take many shots from bt though.
it's a tough call, and i know danny is tougher now than ever, but i still think this is def in doubt.
Fat Cobra. He pretty much tanked everything Danny was throwing at him, and he was using Iron Fist's! He seemed faster, stronger, and overall more devastating..
Truthfully, I'd love seeing Fatty against Black Tarantula more then Danny..
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