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Originally posted by Dolos
First off, the Hulk can't tag or connect a single shot with H'el.

Second, is the Hulk immune to psionic dna ****ery?

Third, Superman is stronger than WWH, who struggled in 100 times Jupiter's gravity with an AMP....that downplays Secret Wars right there.


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First off, the Hulk can't tag or connect a single shot with H'el.

Second, is the Hulk immune to psionic dna ****ery?

Third, Superman is stronger than WWH, who struggled in 100 times Jupiter's gravity with an AMP....that downplays Secret Wars right there.
All Hulk's gotta do is move his hands together in a direction somewhere around where He'l is located.


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Originally posted by psycho gundam
ironically you overlooked the "twice" when trying to knock carver (don't really blame you, though). For all you know the asteroid could be 1.7× earth mass


Then where is it's heavy iron core?

There is no way it could be as heavy as the system's smallest moon, much less any of it's planets.

Not that smashing it with a kinetic spring-shot has is anything more than a durability feat. He's like a canon ball.

Whereas Superman's feat was both a strength feat as well as a stamina feat.

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All Hulk's gotta do is move his hands together in a direction somewhere around where He'l is located.


Thunderclap destruction feats against opponents with superior strength and speed who can teleport and go intangible?


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Then where is it's heavy iron core?

There is no way it could be as heavy as the system's smallest moon, much less any of it's planets.

Not that smashing it with a kinetic spring-shot has is anything more than a durability feat. He's like a canon ball.

Whereas Superman's feat was both a strength feat as well as a stamina feat.



Thunderclap destruction feats against opponents with superior strength and speed who can teleport and go intangible?


That wasn't a durability ft, crazy.

Show us some He'l speed fts.


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Thunderclap destruction feats against opponents with superior strength and speed who can teleport and go intangible?
He's nowhere close to WBH's strength, so that's out.

And it takes nothing out of Hulk, so he can do it whenever. He'l would be better suited to just teleport away


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Then where is it's heavy iron core?

There is no way it could be as heavy as the system's smallest moon, much less any of it's planets.


the earth and moon are right there compared to it

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could this not factor in for this fight?

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That wasn't a durability ft, crazy.

Show us some He'l speed fts.

Speed?
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The asteroid was twice the size of Earth.
Twice the size, not twice the density, and it doesn't matter anyway because Hulk was launched into the asteroid using propellant springs, he couldn't do it under his own power

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@Seven...

How powerful is that attack because a holding back Hulk was busting through Herald+ power without pause.

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Twice the size, not twice the density, and it doesn't matter anyway because Hulk was launched into the asteroid using propellant springs, he couldn't do it under his own power



I think that you may be missing the point here. The idea is that even though the Gray Hulk was aided by rocket springs, (whatever the hell those are) he still had the physical strength, and durability alone to not be squished upon impact with an asteroid capable of destroying the Earth. The Hulk can not fly, but if he could he would have been able to do what he did.

Then factor in that WB Hulk is several orders of magnitude more powerful than the Gray Hulk, and then you will see why the point was brought up. Unless of course I missed something.


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Lol, y'all are nuts. Unless H'el could battle field remove Hulk somehow, he gets wrecked in a straight up fight. It was implied that Green Scar was more powerful than freaking Umar.

Hate it, love it, call it stupid fanboy shit or what have you, but Hulk was closer to Skyfather than Herald at that point.


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I think that you may be missing the point here. The idea is that even though the Gray Hulk was aided by rocket springs, (whatever the hell those are) he still had the physical strength, and durability alone to not be squished upon impact with an asteroid capable of destroying the Earth. The Hulk can not fly, but if he could he would have been able to do what he did.

Then factor in that WB Hulk is several orders of magnitude more powerful than the Gray Hulk, and then you will see why the point was brought up. Unless of course I missed something.


Yeah, powerscaling a ridiculous scenario.

I could rebuttle that with a PIS feat of the Hulk getting KO'd by a mountain buster. It's not strength, it's durability...and it's your guys' only solution to bench pressing the earth for five days and breaking a sweat for the first time in his career while not getting any yellow sunlight.


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Lol, y'all are nuts. Unless H'el could battle field remove Hulk somehow, he gets wrecked in a straight up fight. It was implied that Green Scar was more powerful than freaking Umar.

Hate it, love it, call it stupid fanboy shit or what have you, but Hulk was closer to Skyfather than Herald at that point.
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Lol, y'all are nuts. Unless H'el could battle field remove Hulk somehow, he gets wrecked in a straight up fight. It was implied that Green Scar was more powerful than freaking Umar.

Hate it, love it, call it stupid fanboy shit or what have you, but Hulk was closer to Skyfather than Herald at that point.



Yep. In a real fight I think that it would be H'el's fight to lose, because he could simply grab WB Hulk by an ankle and toss him out into space faster than you could blink. I mean the guy picked up the Fortress of Solitude and flew away with it leaving Superman unable to gauge where the hell he was.

Straight up H2H, or strength vs strength, and it's WB Hulk's fight to lose.


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Yep. In a real fight I think that it would be H'el's fight to lose, because he could simply grab WB Hulk by an ankle and toss him out into space faster than you could blink. I mean the guy picked up the Fortress of Solitude and flew away with it leaving Superman unable to gauge where the hell he was.

Straight up H2H, or strength vs strength, and it's WB Hulk's fight to lose.


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Don't see He'l versatility doing anything to WBH either.


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Mind control?

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Mind control?


Is He'l TP stronger than Xaviers and Emma COMBINED because if not, that didn't give WWH pause either.


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Mind control?
Xavier couldn't do it to a vastly weaker Hulk

Not a chance in he'l


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Originally posted by Dolos
Yeah, powerscaling a ridiculous scenario.

I could rebuttle that with a PIS feat of the Hulk getting KO'd by a mountain buster. It's not strength, it's durability...and it's your guys' only solution to bench pressing the earth for five days and breaking a sweat for the first time in his career while not getting any yellow sunlight.


Whoa slow down. The Hulk and Betty caused planets to turn into dust simply by colliding in mid air. If that's not strength and solely durability then you may need to convince more people than just me, because I'm not convinced. It took the muscles of their legs to cause that event to happen.


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