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Originally posted by Branlor Swift


Hm..

Not sure what to make of that. The blast wipes out all life, but isn't even powerful enough to destroy the planet of origin?

At worst, I guess Prime should still be credited for surviving, since it still wiped out all living things... (Even if it makes no sense it would only affect the living..)


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Originally posted by carver9
Don't get the point of this. Especially when Monarch "average" blasts was knocking the amp completely out of Prime and his Nuke like attack hurt Prime.


Prime's showings being all over the place isn't anything new.. Superboy actually drew blood with his punches.

But he was also insanely hard to KO or defeat, as we saw in examples of in Sinestro Corp War and Legion of Three Worlds.


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Originally posted by Branlor Swift
If you're going to edit your posts, afford the luxury to someone else.

And don't dodge a point in the same post you're saying someone else is dodging for that matter


Who said you couldn't edit? I addressed your edit too

I dodged nothing. You simply see things differently than i do on this. No big deal


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Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Which again flows back into the Power Gem example.

Basically you're making up a random set of rules for what you think a slugfest is and trying to apply it to others. No amping though. Except when amping is allowed.

Point out where the thread starter said no amping. Point out where in the rules it says slugfests entails no internal amping. And finally, point out where "Side effect" amping is different from "I can amp to whatever the shit I want to because I have fine control of my powers" from the rules you're getting that says no amping.


It doesn't

I'm not. I explained the way i saw it. I made nothing up nor did i say this was the way this had to be. I'm not the OP

Explained already. Calm down


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Hm..

Not sure what to make of that. The blast wipes out all life, but isn't even powerful enough to destroy the planet of origin?

At worst, I guess Prime should still be credited for surviving, since it still wiped out all living things... (Even if it makes no sense it would only affect the living..)


Makes no sense at all.
The nuke that Monarch released which was only a minute fraction of his total power leveled that whole city but ALL the quantum energy released at one time does nothing except wipe out life but still spares a monitor and small plant in the process? no expression

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Originally posted by wolverinos
prove monarch was holding back.

prove the fight with monarch is the cause for the Amp to fade away and not time.

prime's statement was to point out he felt that attck, he wasnt hurt he was only pissed.
Prime stating that hurt was like a friend pinching your arm and you like wtf? that hurt and then you are pissed and punching him.
you realise that pinch is miles and miles away from something that can actually hurt you but you treat it that way because you felt it.
another thing that backs it up is the fact Prime without most of the amp survived a universal blast, which only contributes to my previous statement.


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Who said you couldn't edit? I addressed your edit too

I dodged nothing. You simply see things differently than i do on this. No big deal
You dodged that you described almost the textbook definition of control.

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It doesn't

I'm not. I explained the way i saw it. I made nothing up nor did i say this was the way this had to be. I'm not the OP

Explained already. Calm down
It is literally exactly the same.

You did, and acted like it should apply.

Yes, I'm terribly angry.

But the whole "explained already" thing is silly to me considering you keep zopzopping all over the place.

Basically, and I'm sure Rage can finish this sentence, but ____ wins.


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Originally posted by Branlor Swift
You dodged that you described almost the textbook definition of control.

It is literally exactly the same.

You did, and acted like it should apply.

Yes, I'm terribly angry.

But the whole "explained already" thing is silly to me considering you keep zopzopping all over the place.

Basically, and I'm sure Rage can finish this sentence, but ____ wins.


I didn't dodge. Hulk doesn't have the choice like Odin or someone with the PG.

It's not at all. Hulk amping is an automatic reaction, not a decision like Odin

I didn't at all

I can see that

I haven't been. I've explained to you what i meant and how i see it. You disagree and want to keep this little side debate going for some reason.

Prime wins


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Originally posted by wolverinos
prove monarch was holding back.

prove the fight with monarch is the cause for the Amp to fade away and not time.

prime's statement was to point out he felt that attck, he wasnt hurt he was only pissed.
Prime stating that hurt was like a friend pinching your arm and you like wtf? that hurt and then you are pissed and punching him.
you realise that pinch is miles and miles away from something that can actually hurt you but you treat it that way because you felt it.
another thing that backs it up is the fact Prime without most of the amp survived a universal blast, which only contributes to my previous statement.


Didn't read.


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Prime's showings being all over the place isn't anything new.. Superboy actually drew blood with his punches.

But he was also insanely hard to KO or defeat, as we saw in examples of in Sinestro Corp War and Legion of Three Worlds.


Since you know his showings is all over the place, why bring up him surviving Monarch detonation?


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I didn't dodge. Hulk doesn't have the choice like Odin or someone with the PG.

It's not at all. Hulk amping is an automatic reaction, not a decision like Odin

I didn't at all

I can see that

I haven't been. I've explained to you what i meant and how i see it. You disagree and want to keep this little side debate going for some reason.

Prime wins
Because you keep saying the same sort of stuff that you were just tossing out there like "Are they buying it yet?"
That's why I keep responding. That and you just keep being wrong. I don't just disagree, there is no opinion element. You are wrong. It's that simple.

Anyway, as to your first point:
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With Odin i see it as more of a choice. Hulk is just a result of him getting madder. Hulk can't just choose to be more pissed but no longer amp. At least i don't think so

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There's no difference between the way Hulk amps and the way Odin amps?

Who said "fine control"? Nice twist


Which is exactly the difference between Drax with the PG and Thanos/Warlock with the PG. Drax doesn't have a choice if he wants to amp. Thanos/Warlock do. But apparently even having the same power source, one would be allowed to amp in threads, while another wouldn't
But apparently Hulk/Odin is nothing like that. And I know you're thinking "Well, if they gave it to him...", but that's not the issue. It's the same exact thing you're pushing. Apparently we should take away the entire PG's function in one case, just like we should take away an entire function of how we assume Odin's strength works. AMPING

It doesn't matter if it's a decision though. It's amping. You said slugfests aren't amping. But apparently losing all control is reason enough that amping should be allowed. It's hypocritical. Hulk is allowed to amp in slugfest threads, but you don't think Odin should. End of the day you didn't think about Hulk, and now you're backpeddling all the way to balloon-tank-human town to try and right that mistake.

You didn't at all... then why are we talking about it? You outright stated Odin is weaker and can't amp. I called you out on it being in the OP. You continued. But no, you didn't at all.
But if you didn't at all, then Odin is allowed to amp here with no objections from you. Glad that's solved.

But yes, we should not talk about how you said Odin can't amp and that's why Prime wins. Why on Earth would that be relevant?

Another point, but Hulk doesn't have to amp in threads. Just like Odin is apparently cut off from amping for no reason, Hulk could be cut off from amping. Same. Thing.
But that'd be incredibly hard to judge which is why we don't do it (among other reasons... mostly due to nobody being that fickle), which is crazily unlike Odin's strength with the notion that he's always amping (because his bio says he's a class 75).


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Didn't read.


As soon as you saw the first word "prove" you realized it would be tough to counter huh? laughing out loud


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With Odin i see it as more of a choice. Hulk is just a result of him getting madder. Hulk can't just choose to be more pissed but no longer amp. At least i don't think so


How does that change absolutely anything at all? This is the most retarded qualifier for amping I've ever read.

So according to you, people can only amp when its involuntary? What the f*ck?

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I've seen it done several times here, especially after the Zeus-Hulk fight


Examples? Wait, you know what, it doesn't matter. Just because one thread stipulates that amping is involved, it doesn't mean all threads have to or its not allowed.


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prove monarch was holding back.

prove the fight with monarch is the cause for the Amp to fade away and not time.

prime's statement was to point out he felt that attck, he wasnt hurt he was only pissed.
Prime stating that hurt was like a friend pinching your arm and you like wtf? that hurt and then you are pissed and punching him.
you realise that pinch is miles and miles away from something that can actually hurt you but you treat it that way because you felt it.
another thing that backs it up is the fact Prime without most of the amp survived a universal blast, which only contributes to my previous statement.


http://s118.photobucket.com/user/bi...n13p08.jpg.html

That really really hurt!! means he wasn't hurt and only pissed like a friend pinching your arm?

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You should be ashamed of encouraging such obviously poor reading habits. And by ashamed, I mean proud, because even though I emphasized ashamed, I meant something completely different.


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That really really hurt!! means he wasn't hurt and only pissed like a friend pinching your arm?
Wouldn't you say the same thing if your friend was pinching your arm?

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Odin headbutt FTW?

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That really really hurt!! means he wasn't hurt and only pissed like a friend pinching your arm?



You should be ashamed of encouraging such obviously poor reading habits. And by ashamed, I mean proud, because even though I emphasized ashamed, I meant something completely different.


Pinches really really hurt too.
Still a very far cry from being even remotely close to Prime being incapacitated which is the main point but carver loves to hang his hat on the insignificance of that scene every chance he gets.


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But the whole "explained already" thing is silly to me considering you keep zopzopping all over the place.

Et tu, Brute?


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As soon as you saw the first word "prove" you realized it would be tough to counter huh? laughing out loud



No...I ignored him for obvious reasons. Rage cleared it up for me.


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Wow, this forum needs guys like me to set things straight. Things are getting kind of out of whack.

Normal Superman can beat the shit out of Odin in a slugfest. Prime is spite and Gaurdian Prime is utter spite.


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No...I ignored him for obvious reasons. Rage cleared it up for me.
You're kind of a punk.


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