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h1a8
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Originally posted by One-Punch
Obviously Superman's more powerful at abstract level size. Superman was so large he could crush dozens of planets between his fingers since they were literally smaller than specks. Superman is normal sized here, he's not abstract size where humans are microbes in comparison.

Those are Zod and Chris Kent's feats, not transferable to Superman. A blood-lusted Superman couldn't pierce through Wonder Woman's face (only to her bones) with his HV and it didn't stop her. I guess Diana's face is more durable than those particular probes lol.


Like usual you make outlandish claims without actual proof.

Nothing in your post suggest Superman's HV is thousands of times hotter than the sun. Whats funny is Surfer has literally said that he's basked in the glow of a thousand suns after no-selling a blast from Korvac that would incinerate a planet.

Another person's HV going through Superman doesn't mean Superman gets that feat. Feats aren't transferable.

Melting DC's Thor's axe doesn't mean much, it's not like it's equal to Marvel Thor's Mjolnir which has a laundry list of feats under it. So what durability feats does that axe have?

Sure later on I'll give instances later on of people no-selling Superman's heat vision and citing heat resistance as the reason.

Surfer's heat and energy durability is top-notch. Not only is he durable and virtually immune to heat, he can choose to absorb the HV to make himself stronger (like he's done numerous times), or use his silvery skin to reflect it (like he's done numerous times).
now we are getting somewhere. You are clearly ignoring on panel evidence. The scan specifically talks about the Superman's hv being beyond anything man can measure. In the same scan it mentions the things man has created and measured, things that can cut through all known substances on Earth. If you actually look up the things man has created then you would know that he has created things that can reach thousands of hotter than the sun. You are basically claiming that man can not measure or create temperatures in the range of thousands of times hotter than the sun, especially when man has done so many times. Or you are claiming that Superman's hv can not match or exceed such temperatures when the scan specifically stated that's Superman's hv exceeds any measurement made.

I'll accept the Thor argument since I'm an advocate of feats.
I'll accept the Zod feat not being Superman. Well put. But Superman has penetrated trans level beings with hv.


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Originally posted by carver9
Question ABHI. Doomsday ripped apart the same probes. Do you think Doomsday could one shot kill Superman in the same fashion? Punching his head off...etc.
Regular Superman yes, OWAW Superman no.


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Originally posted by One-Punch
Obviously Superman's more powerful at abstract level size. Superman was so large he could crush dozens of planets between his fingers since they were literally smaller than specks. Superman is [b]normal sized here, he's not abstract size where humans are microbes in comparison.


And how did that made his HV more powerful?
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Those are Zod and Chris Kent's feats, not transferable to Superman. A blood-lusted Superman couldn't pierce through Wonder Woman's face (only to her bones) with his HV and it didn't stop her. I guess Diana's face is more durable than those particular probes lol.


Haha, what? The HV burned right through her face.

He also oneshotted her in Final Crisis.

But I like how Zod and Chris Kent are more powerful than Superman though.


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Originally posted by One-Punch
On numerous occasions in the comics people have no-sold or tanked Superman's heat vision and cited heat resistance as the reason:

Lobo no-sells Superman's HV and says it's 'cause he can "ride through the heat of blazing suns."
http://s13.postimg.org/osc1wl3pj/P00121.jpg


Mindcontrolled superman.
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Captain Metamorpho no-sells the HV via turning his chest into asbestos, which is heat resistance material:
http://s13.postimg.org/9xs1w5jif/P00049.jpg


Are you serious here? That's not even canon IIRC.
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Brute was able to tank the HV and Superman cites his heat resistance since they're beside the sun:
http://s13.postimg.org/abtdvr3lz/P00045.jpg
http://s13.postimg.org/iouhcodfr/P00046.jpg


Are you ****ing kidding me? Superman flat out said he is not at full power and Brute said that it was causing him unendurable agony.

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Doide no-sells the HV saying it's cause his armour is made of the same heat resistant tiles as the space shuttle:
http://postimg.org/image/w71doypkz/


WTF? That's a made up story by a character in that comic.
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Surfer's pretty damn resistant to heat based energy.

Supernovae...
http://i.imgur.com/JAjQw9q.png

Are...
http://i.imgur.com/KUACx2C.jpg

Nothing...
http://i.imgur.com/lZ0n50N.jpg

To...
http://s4.postimg.org/qlrx4c3tp/Sil...1988_009_18.jpg

Surfer...
http://s21.postimg.org/l3k2257jb/Supernovae.png


He is just riding out the waves by supernovae. Nowhere did he actually tanked one. Rookie Green Lanterns on day one can do the same.

http://i.imgur.com/oSBoEPD.jpg
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Galactus deliberately made Surfer's skin able to withstand the "hottest" sun.
http://s8.postimg.org/81madwr5h/silversurfer01_34.jpg

Can fly through stars like nothing...
http://i.imgur.com/hPmBIvE.jpg

Again suns are nothing...
http://i.imgur.com/XYULSOr.jpg

Even a red giant star with "planet melting heat" is nothing.
http://i.imgur.com/3yQc4pV.jpg


Just like Superman.
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Surfer can't even feel the sun's plasmic embers on his skin despite being inside the sun.
http://i.imgur.com/CvbkKSo.jpg

Core of planets are also nothing either.
http://i.imgur.com/Nd8GRZ2.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fYsqKGY.jpg


Just like Superman.
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No-sells Korvac's cosmic bolt that can reduce a world to cinders. Superman need to sundipp just to heat up Earth.
http://i.imgur.com/YdaxMmX.jpg


Superman and J'onn created a heat bolt powerful enough to rival the birth of the sun.

http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/...birthofsun1.jpg

http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/...birthofsun2.jpg

http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/...birthofsun3.jpg
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Shrugs off Gladiator's heat vision point black in his face:
http://s18.postimg.org/ckqkvha95/image.jpg



Non canon again. This seems to be a pattern with you.
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Can absorb or deflect a near-infinite amount of Firelord's fire. Note: Firelord's heat is based on Galactus' alien science.
http://i.imgur.com/3Jp2jTn.jpg

Yeah, and even then it can't Pierce the hides of a Herald like HV.
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Unfazed by Nova's (herald) flames inside a machine that uses her heat against her:
http://imgur.com/a/NorqD#6


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I've never really seen heat based attacks affect Surfer except maybe Firelord, but his heat isn't regular heat--it's based of Galactus' alien science and is actually cosmic energy. Surfer should tank/absorb/reflect HV just fine.


"Heat isn't regular heat".



Have you finished your lowballing and citing non canon or imaginary stories yet?


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Why don't both of you put your money where your mouth is and post the feats where Surfer has better energy projection than Superman or takes energy attacks as well as Superman.

Surfer doesn't has what it takes to beat Superman via energy blasts.
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Split.


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"Heat isn't regular heat".



Abhi, he does have a point here :
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^ Abhilegend used those scans numerous times to argue against surfer in the multitude of versions of the "Surfer is weaker than Superman in every way" argument he makes. He's aware of them so it's cognitive dissonance


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Your point is?
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Abhi, he does have a point here :
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That scan just informs that Surfer can resist heat but not from Firelord.

He said the same about a random dragon five issues later and was still harmed by its fire.

When Firelord can blast right through Superman's body, call me about his attack having more power than Superman.

Superman actually absorbs solar energy far faster than surfer and is still harmed by HV.
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^ Abhilegend used those scans numerous times to argue against surfer in the multitude of versions of the "Surfer is weaker than Superman in every way" argument he makes. He's aware of them so it's cognitive dissonance

laughing out loud

Now somehow Surfer metabolizes solar energy better than Superman.

Oh surfer fanboys, never change.


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Your not serious right? No one absorbs solar energy better then Kal.

Quit your pandering.


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Superman even says that at full power it can straight away burn through his invulnerability.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/241...bility.jpg.html


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Your not serious right? No one absorbs solar energy better then Kal.

Quit your pandering.


Not sure which one absorbs solar radiation faster, and it shouldn't really be a point of comparison between Firelord's cosmic flame, and Superman's HV... I mean unless Superman became cosmic without my knowledge? Is he cosmic? Why wouldn't the Surfer be able to absorb HV? It's just another form of energy right? Is there a reason that he wouldn't be able to do so?


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Just for fun, HV matches Omega Beams.

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Actually deflects it away.

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Just a reminder to how powerful omega beams are?
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http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/241...omega3.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/241...omega4.jpg.html


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Your point is?
You said "split", then when your serotonin levels changed when other people said different you flopped HARD the Superman way.
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Your not serious right? No one absorbs solar energy better then Kal.

Quit your pandering.
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Hold on a second here Abhi, how can anyone be certain that the Darkseid that Kal is fighting in those scans is actually the real Darkseid? Is he the real deal when we try to make a point, or is he only the real deal when he says that he isn't in some Avatar body? Using Darkseid as some form of proof becomes murky if it isn't actually him. What if Superman was fighting Desaad, or Kalabak, or some other creature?


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Originally posted by psycho gundam
You said "split", then when your serotonin levels changed when other people said different you flopped HARD the Superman way.
?


I'm still saying this is a a split you dunce.

Don't start PMSing here.


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Hold on a second here Abhi, how can anyone be certain that the Darkseid that Kal is fighting in those scans is actually the real Darkseid? Is he the real deal when we try to make a point, or is he only the real deal when he says that he isn't in some Avatar body? Using Darkseid as some form of proof becomes murky if it isn't actually him. What if Superman was fighting Desaad, or Kalabak, or some other creature?

Because it was the real Darkseid as per the story and as per the writer.


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Surfer wins. Anyone saying it's a stomp is an idiot though.


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Surfer wins. Anyone saying it's a stomp is an idiot though.

Fight me.


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Surfer's immune to normal heat;can absorb hv and can effortlessly decimate a planet with an energy blast,he shits on superman in an energy contest

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Surfer's immune to normal heat;can absorb hv and can effortlessly decimate a planet with an energy blast,he shits on superman in an energy contest


HV isn't solely heat, though, even if that were true.

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