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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
SMH, again, Solar man doing anything to Wonder Woman vs what he did and can do to Superman is irrelevant since Superman showed he can absorb his power.
Hahaha, what? It was Superman's own powers which were powering Solarman.
It shows even a fraction of Superman's power is more than enough to oneshot Wonder woman. quote:
You're missing the point, crazy man you. Zod has heat vision, Superman has heat vision. Even though both have this abilities and it's one of the same, Zodiac was still able to blast a hole clean through Superman. Stop being crazy.
Zod didn't have Superman's own power fueling him you idiot. Can you ****ing read or what? quote:
Wait a minute...when did Wonder Woman get dropped during that scene?
Third scan. One kick and she is stunned. Now show us where she stomped anyone.
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Jul 5th, 2016 02:10 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by abhilegend
Hahaha, what? It was Superman's own powers which were powering Solarman.
It shows even a fraction of Superman's power is more than enough to oneshot Wonder woman.
Zod didn't have Superman's own power fueling him you idiot. Can you ****ing read or what?
Third scan. One kick and she is stunned. Now show us where she stomped anyone.
Scans of Wonder Woman being koed.
Zodiac is powered by the sun. Doesn't matter because I want to see those scans of her being koed.
Lolololol...prove she was stunned and Wonder Woman handled someone that was working Superman.
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Jul 5th, 2016 02:22 AM
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Jul 5th, 2016 02:29 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
Who said anything about LANDING hits. Superman was trying to hit her but he couldn't. That's completely different than someone hitting Superman and succeeding. He was trying to hit her but he couldn't. He then tells her to stand still sleeping that he can succeed at doing so. This scene is as clear as day.
Your entire argument is based off someone hitting Superman or Flash.when that's not the case here. Now if Superman was swinging at Hulk and couldn't land a single hit, KMC would explode.
I'd still side with not being able to control his power or plot.
I agree he was struggling to hit her but I wouldn't use that as evidence to say Wonder Woman > Superman when it comes to combat speed. Sure Superman swings but it's not done at superspeed.
Regardless my point is if the comic suggest your struggling with your abilities or powers then it's not the best evidence to use against the character whose struggling.
In JL52 Flash struggles to hit something that Batman does hit. Does this make Batman faster?
Jul 5th, 2016 02:35 AM
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Carver is once again being owned, badly.
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Jul 5th, 2016 03:02 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by CosmicComet
No. New 52 WW has had hundreds of appearances.
She is fully established.
Ah, so the legitimizing magic number is in the hundreds . You should get with DS, he was unable to figure that out.
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Jul 5th, 2016 05:24 AM
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He dropped Superman here...
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/275...52-010.jpg.html
Your first scan didn't work and I didn't see Diana out not once during that entire scene. Hell, I didn't even see her fight him or try too. He seemed more powerful than Superman since it did take 2 Superman's to subdue him.
ABHI, Superman stepping in doesn't mean she was dazed or knocked out. They came there to fight as a team. I'm sure Superman wouldn't allow Diana to fight a powerful person on her own with him being present. Nut. Diana looked better during that fight. Move on.
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Jul 5th, 2016 06:15 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
I'd still side with not being able to control his power or plot.
I agree he was struggling to hit her but I wouldn't use that as evidence to say Wonder Woman > Superman when it comes to combat speed. Sure Superman swings but it's not done at superspeed.
Regardless my point is if the comic suggest your struggling with your abilities or powers then it's not the best evidence to use against the character whose struggling.
In JL52 Flash struggles to hit something that Batman does hit. Does this make Batman faster?
Control his speed, punches and heat vision?
I'm not saying she is superior to him. What I'm saying is Pre Diana can't replicate it.
I agree, he wasn't fully use to his "new" abilities but his basic power, I'm sure he didn't need a hand book to use it. If he did, he wouldn't have knew anything about shooting a dose of heat vision or freezing an entire city.
Why was Batman able to hit something Flash was unable to hit? He explained it as soon as he did it. If Flash tried to tag Gladiator, do you think he could succeed and please explain your answer.
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Jul 5th, 2016 06:19 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Carver is once again being owned, badly.
Cheerleader 101.
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Jul 5th, 2016 06:19 AM
abhilegend
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
He dropped Superman here...
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/275...52-010.jpg.html
Your first scan didn't work and I didn't see Diana out not once during that entire scene. Hell, I didn't even see her fight him or try too. He seemed more powerful than Superman since it did take 2 Superman's to subdue him.
ABHI, Superman stepping in doesn't mean she was dazed or knocked out. They came there to fight as a team. I'm sure Superman wouldn't allow Diana to fight a powerful person on her own with him being present. Nut. Diana looked better during that fight. Move on.
No, he didn't. Superman was also heavily drained and kryptonite poisoned. It goes like this.
Superman (Full power) >Solarman> Depowered Superman >Wonder woman.
Do I need to make a chart too?
Yet, still tougher and stronger than Diana.
Not koed? Not fighting him?
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There you go.
He was draining Superman himself idiot. How could he be more powerful than Superman?
Hahaha, she was taken out of the fight with one kick and didn't do anything other than throwing rocks but somehow she looked better?
Where did she stomp anyone?
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by riv6672
Everyone's been here long enough to know this.
Most dont go past "character has more appearances, end of story". Just trying this awesome logic on for size.
Yeah, someone broke that down for me today.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by CosmicComet
Stop the BM-related butthurt please.
Blue Marvel's list of noteworthy appearances/accomplishments is so short you could do a 1 post (yes 1 post, not page) respect thread and cover basically everything.
He's consistent, and that's what he has going for him, but nothing he did was jaw dropping for a herald level character.
Just stop being obtuse on the matter, everyone seems to know what we mean about the character except you when we say he's barely been in anything.
No "we" don't, it's only a small pack of you hardliners that believe in this nonsensical code.
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quote: How could he be more powerful than Superman?
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Jul 5th, 2016 07:18 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by abhilegend
No, he didn't. Superman was also heavily drained and kryptonite poisoned. It goes like this.
Superman (Full power) >Solarman> Depowered Superman >Wonder woman.
Do I need to make a chart too?
Yet, still tougher and stronger than Diana.
Not koed? Not fighting him?
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-NDSp4JXc...s1600/20_12.jpg [/img]
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-UjG6gbAH...s1600/20_13.jpg [/img]
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There you go.
He was draining Superman himself idiot. How could he be more powerful than Superman?
Hahaha, she was taken out of the fight with one kick and didn't do anything other than throwing rocks but somehow she looked better?
Where did she stomp anyone?
You're all over the place. You post scans saying Clark is greater than Wonder Woman because he withstood Solar man power without being dropped but then you post two scenes of Solar man one hitting Superman.
He used the solar flare against Diana, Clark's most powerful move. I never said she could tank that just like Clark isn't beating an un cuffed Diana. I thought you were talking about another scene. Diana vs Clark putting all of his energy into one attack (and becoming human afterwards), yes, I think he would drop her. The thing about that is, he will be human afterwards.
He was using the solar flare FAR better than Superman which is the reason I think he is more powerful. I admit, Diana odds against the flare isn't that great. Look at her fight against Super girl. She almost koed Diana with the same tactic. In a head up fight without the Supers depleting themselves, that's a different story.
She stomped her during the scans I posted while Superman was on the side lines.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
You're all over the place. You post scans saying Clark is greater than Wonder Woman because he withstood Solar man power without being dropped but then you post two scenes of Solar man one hitting Superman.
He used the solar flare against Diana, Clark's most powerful move. I never said she could tank that just like Clark isn't beating an un cuffed Diana. I thought you were talking about another scene. Diana vs Clark putting all of his energy into one attack (and becoming human afterwards), yes, I think he would drop her. The thing about that is, he will be human afterwards.
He was using the solar flare FAR better than Superman which is the reason I think he is more powerful. I admit, Diana odds against the flare isn't that great. Look at her fight against Super girl. She almost koed Diana with the same tactic. In a head up fight without the Supers depleting themselves, that's a different story.
She stomped her during the scans I posted while Superman was on the side lines.
Carver, the reason you are having trouble understanding is because for Abby, this isn't about either WW. You know who this is really about.
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Jul 5th, 2016 02:53 PM
abhilegend
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
You're all over the place. You post scans saying Clark is greater than Wonder Woman because he withstood Solar man power without being dropped but then you post two scenes of Solar man one hitting Superman.
Because Superman was drained and poisoned by kryptonite.
When are you going to address that? quote:
He used the solar flare against Diana, Clark's most powerful move. I never said she could tank that just like Clark isn't beating an un cuffed Diana. I thought you were talking about another scene. Diana vs Clark putting all of his energy into one attack (and becoming human afterwards), yes, I think he would drop her. The thing about that is, he will be human afterwards.
He didn't use solar flare, just a normal energy attack. Are you unable to see as well?
He didn't become human either there. quote:
He was using the solar flare FAR better than Superman which is the reason I think he is more powerful. I admit, Diana odds against the flare isn't that great. Look at her fight against Super girl. She almost koed Diana with the same tactic. In a head up fight without the Supers depleting themselves, that's a different story.
Haha, that's not a solar flare. He didn't become powerless after the blast for 24 hours.
He was literally using a portion of Superman's powers but somehow is more powerful than Superman.
Carver logic at finest. quote:
She stomped her during the scans I posted while Superman was on the side lines.
Haha, sure. Throwing rocks and grabbing him by throat is stomping someone when they stopped fighting on their own.
What an idiot.
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Jul 5th, 2016 03:09 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by abhilegend
Because Superman was drained and poisoned by kryptonite.
When are you going to address that?
He didn't use solar flare, just a normal energy attack. Are you unable to see as well?
He didn't become human either there.
Haha, that's not a solar flare. He didn't become powerless after the blast for 24 hours.
He was literally using a portion of Superman's powers but somehow is more powerful than Superman.
Carver logic at finest.
Haha, sure. Throwing rocks and grabbing him by throat is stomping someone when they stopped fighting on their own.
What an idiot.
Why do u feel nu diana is better?
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Jul 5th, 2016 03:49 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by abhilegend
Because Superman was drained and poisoned by kryptonite.
When are you going to address that?
He didn't use solar flare, just a normal energy attack. Are you unable to see as well?
He didn't become human either there.
Haha, that's not a solar flare. He didn't become powerless after the blast for 24 hours.
He was literally using a portion of Superman's powers but somehow is more powerful than Superman.
Carver logic at finest.
Haha, sure. Throwing rocks and grabbing him by throat is stomping someone when they stopped fighting on their own.
What an idiot.
His power was going in and out. He wasn't drained. When he was losing power, he couldn't even fly. At no point during that fight was he drained. He even mentions it during his fight against Solar man.
OMG...he did use solar flare. Look at the scene. He didn't use heat vision, super strength, none of that. Energy is exploding from his body just like Superman does during desperate times and just like Super girl did.
There's no difference than what he did and this...
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And of course he didn't go human when doing it because he had more control. You're trying so hard to overhype this Superman that it's ridiculous. You even mentioned that he is more powerful than Pre Superman at a weakened state because he supposedly one shot koed him with a punch. Just stop.
Lol... Wonder Woman made her give up with a blitz and a choke. Give up.
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Hey Abby, was he draining Superman like Suneater supposedly did?
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Jul 5th, 2016 04:07 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by carver9
Control his speed, punches and heat vision?
I'm not saying she is superior to him. What I'm saying is Pre Diana can't replicate it.
I agree, he wasn't fully use to his "new" abilities but his basic power, I'm sure he didn't need a hand book to use it. If he did, he wouldn't have knew anything about shooting a dose of heat vision or freezing an entire city.
Why was Batman able to hit something Flash was unable to hit? He explained it as soon as he did it. If Flash tried to tag Gladiator, do you think he could succeed and please explain your answer.
I honestly don't see what Nu Diana did in that instance that could be replicated by her Pre-Flashpoint counterpart.
I could honestly see Pre-Flashpoint Diana doing the same thing she still has more skill so it wouldnt suprsise me to see her subdue GOS Superman. I could see her taking the eye blast as well just the same.
To be honest if Flash wanted to tag most people he should be able to under most circumstances.
Jul 5th, 2016 06:05 PM
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