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Iron Fist vs. Sabretooth
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StiltmanFTW
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Originally posted by ODG
The fact that you think Sabretooth's physical abilities were only first explicitly elucidated when he fought Rogue belies how uninformed you are.

You suggest that it is more logical to act like Sabretooth's first fight shouldn't matter. We should also ignore the vast majority of his next several chronological appearances during the 1970s and 1980s where his character is elaborated/defined and he fights foes like Luke Cage, Ms. Marvel, X-Factor, X-Men, and Wolverine. Y'know, appearances that show Creed operated on a level that is comparable to what he subsequently showed.

But none of that should matter, because Wolverithmetics, yo... Sure, let's throw out one of the two 1v1 fights that the two characters in this 1v1 thread have ever had. Makes sense, because Wolverithmetics, yo... ...

Tsk tsk. Drinking is doing you no good.

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^ Translation: "I will do more research into Sabretooth's actual appearances during this ill-defined time period instead of talking out of my a$$."

I did ask for a constructive discussion.

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No, no.

It was murdered years before Okoye... the menace known as [SPOILER - highlight to read]: cdtm did it.

Don�t take this feat away from Okoye.

There is no better character to stick it to cdtm.

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Originally posted by StiltmanFTW

But you can't say you're surprised.

It's far more likely for Srank to rise up from his grave than ODG changing his ways.

I was hoping for that long hiatus effect to take over. I've noticed members tend to soften their stances a bit after a long time away, and allow for a bit a nuance.

ODG seems to be in full Debate Lord mode though, so I doubt we're going to get a good faith discussion here.

I do still miss his wars with srank though, simply for the insults. Shit was hilarious.

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But none of that should matter, because Wolverithmetics, yo... Sure, let's throw out one of the two 1v1 fights that the two characters in this 1v1 thread have ever had. Makes sense, because Wolverithmetics, yo... ...

Well, yeah. They've undergone changes that I feel render the fight mostly useless.

We don't use Pre-Crisis showings for similar reasons even though they're, technically, canon for some characters. You seem to have made up your mind here though, so have at it bro. thumb up

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Jul 15th, 2022 01:28 AM

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^ Translation: "I will do more research into Sabretooth's actual appearances during this ill-defined time period instead of talking out of my a$$."

I did ask for a constructive discussion.

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Take a sip of something a little stronger, next time you visit us smile

You're a shadow of your former self. CBR did that to you?

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Originally posted by Smurph
Don�t take this feat away from Okoye.

There is no better character to stick it to cdtm.

Black. Female. And a foreigner, to boot.

True, very true thumb up

It almost gave him a heart attack.

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Originally posted by StyleTime
I was hoping for that long hiatus effect to take over. I've noticed members tend to soften their stances a bit after a long time away, and allow for a bit a nuance.

ODG seems to be in full Debate Lord mode though, so I doubt we're going to get a good faith discussion here.

I do still miss his wars with srank though, simply for the insults. Shit was hilarious.

Well, yeah. They've undergone changes that I feel render the fight mostly useless.

We don't use Pre-Crisis showings for similar reasons even though they're, technically, canon for some characters. You seem to have made up your mind here though, so have at it bro.

You're suggesting that I won't engage in good faith discussions.

When I am arguing against the dismissal out of hand of 1 of the 2 only fights between these characters in this thread. Which I am not even arguing is determinative... just that it shouldn't be completely dismissed out of hand due to the notion that Sabretooth at the time wasn't portrayed anywhere near what he was subsequently portrayed as...

... even though I am literally citing the vast majority of his subsequent chronological appearances during the 70s and 80s.

Sure. Whatever.

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You're suggesting that I won't engage in good faith discussions.

Maybe because I have a good reason to assume so?

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When I am arguing against the dismissal out of hand of 1 of the 2 only fights between these characters in this thread.

Three fights.

Tsk tsk. You don't like numbers very much.

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Which I am not even arguing is determinative... just that it shouldn't be completely dismissed out of hand due to the notion that Sabretooth at the time wasn't portrayed anywhere near what he was subsequently portrayed as...

... even though I am literally citing the vast majority of his subsequent chronological appearances during the 70s and 80s.

Sure. Whatever.

As I said, it's canon and it happened.

And it's a simple fact that he was essentially powerless when he was Danny's villain.

You're the only one trying to deny it.

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I was right the first time:

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This conversation has run it's course.

Wolverithmetics, yo...

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Talking to yourself doesn't make you seem any smarter.

Style dismissed your posts, as well. Anyone disagreeing with your poor stance is using Wolverithmetics? smile

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Originally posted by ODG
You're suggesting that I won't engage in good faith discussions.

When I am arguing against the dismissal out of hand of 1 of the 2 only fights between these characters in this thread. Which I am not even arguing is determinative... just that it shouldn't be completely dismissed out of hand due to the notion that Sabretooth at the time wasn't portrayed anywhere near what he was subsequently portrayed as...

... even though I am literally citing the vast majority of his subsequent chronological appearances during the 70s and 80s.

Sure. Whatever.

I mean, you posted this as your stance just a few pages earlier.

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A weaker, non-upgraded, and blinded Iron Fist already beat Sabretooth.

Danny wins.

Maybe you were joking, but it's not like we came up with this out of the blue broski.

Jul 15th, 2022 01:50 AM

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I mean, you posted this as your stance just a few pages earlier.

Maybe you were joking, but it's not like we came up with this out of the blue broski.

You might want to re-read this thread.

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Talking to yourself doesn't make you seem any smarter.

Style dismissed your posts, as well. Anyone disagreeing with your poor stance is using Wolverithmetics?

Should I take this straw-man seriously? That's an honest question.

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Hilarious, coming from the king of strawmanning laughing out loud

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Andf here I thought I was just being playfully trolled. Not so much now... /shrug

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You f*cked up the dates, didn't even get the amount of Creed/Fist fights right --- and I'm the one trolling? smile

Keep living in your fan fiction. Nobody is going to side with you on this one.

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^ It appears that no constructive discussion will continue between you and I on this topic. You can blame it on me. That's fine.

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You're repeating the same thing even after being corrected, so yeah, rest assured I blame this one on you.

Just remember you're the one who couldn't save image files in 2022 smile

Next thing you might find out is that KMC is no longer a paradise for Wolverine haters eek!

Or thorbags wink

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^ Bruh... I wasn't trying to make you upset.

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You didn't. This place is so dead, I'm sure glad to have your ass back thumb up

Even though we're not likely to agree on anything Thor- or Wolverine-related in this century.

But... this forum could really use a Hulk fan in the age of anti-Hulk posts

You haven't seen those yet... you're in for a treat. Same with L&T.

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ODG
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^ We don't have to agree on anything. Seriously, who have I gotten to agree with me during my past debates?

Believe me or not, I'm more interested in constructive discussion now. I don't care about trolling the trolls anymore with their own troll tactics. And I don't even consider you a troll...

... I mean, I don't even remember who you are at all.

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