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If two phased people can hit each other, Vision beats her.


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He wouldn't be ultra-dense when intangible - in which case he wouldn't have any superhuman strength. How good are Vision's hand to hand combat skills sans superstrength?


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Originally posted by xmarksthespot
He wouldn't be ultra-dense when intangible - in which case he wouldn't have any superhuman strength. How good are Vision's hand to hand combat skills sans superstrength?
and durability. . . that's the problem I'm seeing.


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Re: Shadowcat vs.

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Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Bloodlusted Kitty Pryde aka Shadowcat in a fan-favourite gauntlet. Streets of New York. No prep. She's fully restored after each fight.

1. Punisher
2. Daredevil
3. Captain America
4. Batman
5. Wolverine w/out adamantium skeleton
6. Spider-Man
7. Thing
8. Deadpool
9. Deathstroke
10. Hulk
11. Invisible Woman
12. Iron Man
13. Wonder Woman
14. Vision
15. Wolverine w/the adamantium skeleton



She can take them all (except i don't no bout 8 and 13 not sure of powers)

Interesting ones (i.e not ground swim/run dodge towards him then ground phase/phase in object) in ORANGE at end (soz mix up)


Punisher - ground swim/run dodge towards him then ground phase/phase in object
daredevil - ground swim/run dodge towards him then ground phase/phase in object
c. america -- ground swim/run dodge towards him then ground phase/phase in object
batman - air walk if he flies and eventually she wud take him
wolverine - ground swim/run dodge towards him then ground phase/phase in object
spiderman - ground swim/run dodge towards him then ground phase/phase in object
thing - ground swim/run dodge towards him then ground phase/phase in object
deadpool - ?
deathstroke -- ground swim/run dodge towards him then ground phase/phase in object
hulk -- ground swim/run dodge towards him then ground phase/phase in object
invisible woman - interesting kitty can not phase through light ans so she can not get thru forcefields but if kitty is quick enuf at start she can ground swim to her where iw cant reach her and then yank her down but this is more likely to be a stalemate
Iron man - - ground swim/run dodge towards him then ground phase/phase in object
wonder woman - ?
vision - done b4 kitty phasing disrupts vision and boom the android is gone - chek that thread 4 proof
wolverine2 - kitty still wins yes she finds it very hard to phase thru adamatium but its no problem to phase adamantium (in fact very easy as molecules so close) so all she does is - ground swim him then ground phase/phase in object

batman - air walk if he flies and eventually she wud take him

invisible woman - interesting kitty can not phase through light ans so she can not get thru forcefields but if kitty is quick enuf at start she can ground swim to her where iw cant reach her and then yank her down but this is more likely to be a stalemate

vision - done b4 kitty phasing disrupts vision and boom the android is gone - chek that thread 4 proof


there you go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

any objections?

let's here 'em...

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No1 disagrees

ok Shadowcat takes them all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Glad thts setlled now let's see who can take her?

I know light users can

Telepaths more difficult when phased

Telekenetics can not harm her by thowing things at her, yes they can throw her even when phased bu how will that hurt her as she phases thru obstacles till she slows down. so stalemate or she wins there.


So apart from light, such as invisible woman or dazzler, users who can take her??????????????

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Kitty defeats the ENTIRE gauntlet. Yes, even Vision, Invisible Woman, and Adamantium-Wolverine.

Vision can phase, too, yes. I know this. But he's also a machine. What does Kitty do when she reacts with machinery? She short-circuits it. Phasing or not, Vision's intangibility is still science-based and turns on and off through electrical impulses, being a robot and all. Kitty short-circuits him, and wins.

I am 99.99% positive that I've seen Kitty phase through Wolverine (with adamantium) before and come out unscathed. But let's just assume she cannot. So what? She just phases into the ground/wall/etc. and pulls him in. Wolverine's going to REALLY hate that healing factor of his when he becomes part of the earth or the wall.

Invisible Woman doesn't pose much of a challenge either. Her forcefields are light-produced, correct? A bending of the light and such? Yea, Kitty can phase through light, dense or not. Any forcefield that IW tries to create inside of Kitty will be futile. The ONLY way that IW could escape the fight would be to become invisible I think. And that's just to escape, I don't see how she could use it to beat Kitty, since Kitty's natural state is intangibility. Besides, with all her MANY, MANY years of hardcore training with both the X-men, their Danger Room, and Wolverine's crazy hardcore training, Kitty would eventually pick up where IW if she was invisible at the time. IW would eventually give herself away if she was trying to sneak around. Kitty's trained senses are too good to let IW get away.

So, yea. Shadowcat defeats the entire gauntlet.


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couldn't Iron-man use his sonic disrupter thingys? surely that would work?


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Invisible Woman doesn't pose much of a challenge either. Her forcefields are light-produced, correct? A bending of the light and such? Yea, Kitty can phase through light, dense or not. Any forcefield that IW tries to create inside of Kitty will be futile. The ONLY way that IW could escape the fight would be to become invisible I think. And that's just to escape, I don't see how she could use it to beat Kitty, since Kitty's natural state is intangibility. Besides, with all her MANY, MANY years of hardcore training with both the X-men, their Danger Room, and Wolverine's crazy hardcore training, Kitty would eventually pick up where IW if she was invisible at the time. IW would eventually give herself away if she was trying to sneak around. Kitty's trained senses are too good to let IW get away.


Actually kitty can not phase thru light - as shown by the fact that her intangible state is not invisible! but if IW does put a forcefield SC walks up to it and crouches, IW says "eh" and SC quickly ground phases and reemerges next to IW and then yank pain pain pain and IW's body parts are ripped apart and thrust everywhere! nice!

So it doesnt rele matter

But tell me wat is iron mans sonic disrupter thingy
i am listening...

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Originally posted by xmarksthespot
To my knowledge the only thing that Shadowcat officially cannot phase through nowadays is adamantium (and that is CIS/PIS so that Wolverine is able to beat her).
Since when??? huh
To my knowledge it is just harder and painful for Kitty to phase through adamantium, because of its density, but not impossible. After all she did it several times before!


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Actually kitty can not phase thru light - as shown by the fact that her intangible state is not invisible!
Yeah roll eyes (sarcastic), but it's ok when Magneto and IW can block lasers with their "invisible", transparent forcefields. How logical is that?!


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Yeah roll eyes (sarcastic), but it's ok when Magneto and IW can block lasers with their "invisible", transparent forcefields. How logical is that?!


Well IW doing it is understandable as she creates forcefields by bending light so a lazer hitting her forcefield actuaaly increases its strength.

Ive never seen magneto block a lazer or heard of him doing it so until i do i don't believe he can... i mean... how cud he?

I still want 2 no wat iron man's sonic disrupter thingy is and wat it can do so i can ansWER THE QUESTION!!!!!!!!!AAGGH! sorry...

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Re: Shadowcat vs.

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Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Bloodlusted Kitty Pryde aka Shadowcat in a fan-favourite gauntlet. Streets of New York. No prep. She's fully restored after each fight.

1. Punisher
2. Daredevil
3. Captain America
4. Batman
5. Wolverine w/out adamantium skeleton
6. Spider-Man
7. Thing
8. Deadpool
9. Deathstroke
10. Hulk
11. Invisible Woman
12. Iron Man
13. Wonder Woman
14. Vision
15. Wolverine w/the adamantium skeleton


Se gets bloodlust? Explain how she could beat these people.


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ahem.......................look up a few roll eyes (sarcastic) ............................ther u go!



ps... the big long one on this page...

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oh yeah i still want 2 no wat iron man's sonic disrupter thingy is and wat it can do

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Well IW doing it is understandable as she creates forcefields by bending light so a lazer hitting her forcefield actuaaly increases its strength.

Ive never seen magneto block a lazer or heard of him doing it so until i do i don't believe he can... i mean... how cud he?

I still want 2 no wat iron man's sonic disrupter thingy is and wat it can do so i can ansWER THE QUESTION!!!!!!!!!AAGGH! sorry...

1) When IW is bending the light around her forcefield, one would not see anything inside the field and she would not see anything outside the field.
Obviously light passes THROUGH her field, since you can see through it and so a laser, which is nothing but light, should be able to pass through it too!
It does not in the comics, because it's just a comic in which logic does not always apply...and for the same reason Kitty can phase through light, even though she should not be able to do so, since she is not invisible in her intangible form.

2) Uncanny X-Men 393, may 2001: Magneto shields himself with a transparent forcefield against a light attack of Dazzler.

3) Sonic attacks might work against Kitty even in her intangible state, so if Iron Man has such a device or can improvise one, he could take her out.


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i don't like u

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i don't like u
Why is that? sad


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lol just kidding i see your point about IW this is confusing.... ah... i believe she initially bends the light around her to create a forcafield and then that light is kept staionary meaning that light can pass thru if she wants it to or she can bend the new light giving the invisible effect and stopping a lazer... well that's how i see it neway

and i think as light is part of the electromagnetic spectrum and as magneto can manipulate that i see that he could stop a lazer?????????????????????????????????????????????????????? but not sure cos foloowing that theory magneto couls scramble all light waves so no-one wud b able 2 see so not sure about tht one

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Glad thts setlled now let's see who can take her?

I know light users can

Telepaths more difficult when phased

Telekenetics can not harm her by thowing things at her, yes they can throw her even when phased bu how will that hurt her as she phases thru obstacles till she slows down. so stalemate or she wins there.


So apart from light, such as dazzler, users who can take her??????????????


so anyway back to this... ne1 got any ideas?

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