Or what about when he's webbed up so he can't move? Hmm... seeing as how Spidey's got a major speed advantage, I don't think that'd be too hard. After all, what's Cap going to do to stop it? Throw his shield? Ah, well, that won't work. I mean, we've all seen what happens then.
oh wait you're reffering to the civil war issue? you need to have your eyes checked... spidey jacks his shield does some shifty camo mode stuff and then tries to take cap out with his own shield... doesn't work they engage in hand to hand.. before iron man interferes spearing cap through a brick wall at high speeds from behind (which is by the way another testament to cap's superhuman durability..) we get a nice little shot of cap landing a haymaker on spidey's face AGAIN, sending spidey flying again and this time in "spread eagle" lol.. he was certainly winning there.
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
well now you're just changing the subject... so then do you conceed a spider punch isn't all that you thought it was going to be here?
and yes.. cis is applicable to these fights. sorry.
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
i wasn't answering a question based on spiderman's webbing..
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
If he can take hits from Mr. Hyde who is currently Class 80, or Iron-Man (In the very same scans), who is, even at base level, much stronger than Spider-man, then yeah. I think Cap could take a punch or two. How about against Namor? The Controller? Man-Ape?
What about a hung-over Cap easily keeping up with Beast's speed and agility, a character that is often compared to Spider-man in those departments? Scoprion? Doc Ock? The Executionar?
How about the Spidey robot that Kang created in the future? It had every one of Spider-man's powers, it easily matched Spider-man in combat, and when it engaged Cap, it analyzed his Spider strength and speed, and calculated that he would not be able to match Cap in hand to hand combat.
Does none of this make a difference? .
EDIT: Shit. I notice I took too long to post, and thus, Jinzin already pointed out much of what I have written. Regardless, I believe my (our?) point still stands.
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
yep I WAS arguing points on cap's durability. cause aparently you don't think any of his feats that suggest his superhuman durability mean that he infact has superhuman durability... so then you defect to webbing? it's a copout.. do you then conceed you were wrong about his durability?
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
Dont get me wrong, you bring up very good points, if spiderman would engage capt in Purely H2H it be a better fight, but Spidey would still take the majority 7-8/10 due to his superhuman qualitys alone.
But Parker is not that dumb, he knows capt is a better fighter then him, there is no answer for capt being webbed up and tossed around like a rag doll.
see the good we can do when we join our forces together instead of bickering against one another? lol. good work.
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
probably not long at all cap might try to close the gap but if spidey fights smart he won't let him.
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
well of course there's no answer for it when you've already given spiderman the benefit of the doubt to say that cap would be so helpless in the first place.
__________________ "damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
I don't know much about Mr. Hyde, but if Captain America's taking hits from him, and he really is 80 ton strength level, there's something up there. Either PIS, or Cap is rolling with them. I can see Cap taking hits from Iron Man, sure; Namor, okay. The others I don't know much about.
By the rest of your post: are you really trying to say that Captain America's speed is on par with Spider-Man?
Exactly. Assuming Cap simply dodged the first barrage of webs, and closes the gap, he will take it to Spider-man up close, and need not worry too much about the webs. Assuming Spider-man does an acrobatic leap backwards, Cap can tag him in mid-air. He has been able to perform much more difficult feats with his shield than hit a falling spider-man, afterall.
And, if he can chunk his shield through the engine of a tractor trailer, I think Iron-Spidey may feel it.
Good point, considering Captain America has managed to do it, what, three times now?
In the very scans I posted, it showed that Captain America has studied Parker to a T. He knows what is going to happen, he knows Spider-Man's likely responses, offensives, and defensives. Captain America is not only a MASTER combatant, he also knows all about strategy and tactics. He'll place himself where he needs to be placed. He'll make Spider-man fight HIS fight, and then get the upper-hand.
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Jul 26th, 2006 05:46 AM
"damn jinzin, you're a real trooper, you provde fact after fact and pages and pages of proof and these wanton miscreants just keep at it"~MERC
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cap might try to close the gap but if spidey fights smart he won't let him.
