__________________ The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
I don't know, maybe by kicking the crap out of him ? It's not because Runner is faster, that he's just gonna take the win.
I'm willing to bet that Superman punches a whole lot harder than Runner. Superman is probably a lot more durable too (in all honesty, I can't prove it, but I compare both characters showings, and Superman has some insane durability feats.)
I hope you are not saying that Superman won't be able to touch Runner, because Runner happens to be faster ?
Superman has true super human fighting reflexes, you know, Flash style. I could be wrong, but Runner only travels very fast (and thinks very slowly). Is his reaction time just as great as his traveling speed ? I don't know, haven't seen it until now.
__________________ The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
So what you're telling me is that Superman can win because he can punch harder than the Runner and that you cant prove that Superman is more durable? Well first of all Runner doesnt have to use superhuman srength he can use energy.
Nope I see Runner winning with some trouble but not too much. All Edlers that have spent time developing their powers seem to be much more powerful than Superman....I could be wrong but thats the impression I get. For startes even the Obliterator who uses tech almost killed Surfer and Surfer has gone toe to toe with Henshaw.
I think you are wrong the Runner is a cosmic speedstar the same way Quicksilver and Speed Demon are speedsters but Runner is cosmic...I thought that was obvious. If you travel fast you ahve to be able to think fast as well...for starters you have to avoid objects when travlleing at high speed. As you know he could ahve beaten Thanos and has beaten Silver Surfer.
__________________ Watch what people are cynical about, and one can often discover what they lack.
- General George Patton Jr
Last edited by Deadline on Oct 21st, 2007 at 02:35 PM
Runner wasn't using the space gem. The space gem allowed him to have a teleportation effect as Thanos stated. He didn't destroy Thanos's throne/chair by teleporting.
As far as Surfer using all of his powers, it seemed like he didn't even have the time vs. Runner. Surfer also lost a test of power against Runner before he was sent crashing into that planet.
marvel vs marvel, dc vs dc. dc characters are all on steroids
all their characters are godlike now, even batman to some extent.
people that dislike world war hulk are really just stunned to see marvel take a page out of dc's un-thought out pages by making the hulk a juggernaut, without taking into account the aftermath of the storyline; hulk is now above all the avengers, he is smarter and stronger than ever, his healing factor is better than ever, he beat strange and blackbolt, etc see what I;m saying? it just causes other characters to be elevated to that level to even the playing field(cause you know they wont be weakened). so yeah, marvel shouldn't be mixed with dc got that, cause superman is beyond god now and growing. and I dare any one to tell me differently
Why did u post this same comment in multiple threads? U talk about Hulk beating Strange but any 1 in their right mind knows that's not supposed to happen. There are characters in Marvel capable of beating Superman. This thread is an example. Besides, Marvel vs. Marvel and DC vs. DC matchups have gotten old and are boring. U eventually have to crossover at some point after being on these boards for a while.
Meagre? That is still two more than what you have come up with to show that he CAN be blitzed by such characters.
Fallen One was a reflex feat. As I have said, Thanos is never going to blitz anyone, but his reflexes makes it difficult for him to get blitzed. Can I ask how we can tell from a panel that a character is going fast? The way fallen one was emoting in that battle, plus the way illustrations were done, added to the fact that he is a higher end herald who has the ability to cover distance pretty quickly gives what I am arguing for some credence at least. Obviously I cannot prove it, as there was no numerical evidence, but circumstantial evidence gives my claim credence. How would you disprove it then? Show me why he was going at "2kmph"?
You seem to be confusing speed with reflex. The former is needed to blitz. The second is needed to avoid being blitzed. Similar, but a fine line.
I don't take a bazooka to a knife fight either. Especially when I have a big bad knife and when the opponent has a Hello Kitty playset knife for cutting playdough. Heralds >>> spiderman. Thanos > heralds. Spiderman can hurt heralds about as much as SS has hurt Thanos in the past. When the runner fought surfer, the elders were plotting to kill G. Does that seem like equal context to you?
Those were runner's average feats. I know that superman has beaten characters above those. Why then would he likely lose to either Thanos or Surfer if so? Either a case of selective memory or a faulty generalisation. I expected better from a respected debater as yourself.
I dunno man if you were going to fly towards Thanos in order to destroy him you would probably fly as slow as possible. Yeah I think id fly at 2mph that should be able to do it....I mean hes only one of the most dangerous people in the univers. Hell I fly at the speed of light or faster im trying to kill Thanos.... **** it i'll think i'll fly at 2mph.
__________________ Watch what people are cynical about, and one can often discover what they lack.
- General George Patton Jr
Last edited by Deadline on Oct 22nd, 2007 at 10:20 AM
Precisely. I can see heralds holding back against insignificant street level threats, but not against an entity that is above them. They surely did not hold back against Tyrant, and I doubt any herald would hold back against Thanos.
Yeah but when you got posters saying that shooting down Fallen One at high speed isnt a reflex feat, you have to state the bleeding obvious. Hey I dindt even read the comic but assuming Oullada is telling the truth its bloody obvious it was a reflex feat.
__________________ Watch what people are cynical about, and one can often discover what they lack.
- General George Patton Jr
It could have been a forcefield, but my guess was some kind of mental Tk-esque feat. It still says a lot about relexes. I found the scan on the respect thread.
Look at the fourth scan, and decide for yourself if that looks like 2 miles per hour. The more I look at it, the more I believe that the artist WANTED us to know that fallen one was really hauling ass in that battle.
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