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One thing puts DS over Odin. The proven ability to absorb the power of those who are mightier than he.
Not really.

Odin cam do a lot of crazy things don't count him out.


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No. A dead galaxy is devoid of star power. Which then would include no life.
No it was devoid of life hence why there was the reference to the star that was dieing. It was only devoid of life. Which is why Odin wasn't holding back because he didn't have to worry about killing everyone.


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Ummm I think the fact that it was their residual energies destroying them I'm inclined to say that they may have been battling across that Galaxies destroying them with only the side effects is quite a feat. And dead Galaxies means devoid of life not that it didn't have stars or planets. wink

And I didn't say elseworlds wasn't Cannon I'm saying it didn't become cannon until it got referenced with something in the main DCU.

Just like Vertigo isn't Cannon until it gets mentioned.

It doesn't matter if something is referenced by the main DCU. We already know how the DCu cosmos works. ANY thing owned by DC is canon unto itself. Since it's already established that there is only one mxy, and he can retcon, lives outside of comics, and has multiversal power, world's funnest isn't a stretch. Hell i've already cited superman 25 and an "alternate" mxy being referenced as essential reading.


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No it was devoid of life hence why there was the reference to the star that was dieing. It was only devoid of life. Which is why Odin wasn't holding back because he didn't have to worry about killing everyone.

No. the panel says Long Dead galaxies. we know that stars die. It meant what it said. The galaxies where dead. A galaxy doesn't need life in order to be alive. It only need active star systems.


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It doesn't matter if something is referenced by the main DCU. We already know how the DCu cosmos works. ANY thing owned by DC is canon unto itself. Since it's already established that there is only one mxy, and he can retcon, lives outside of comics, and has multiversal power, world's funnest isn't a stretch. Hell i've already cited superman 25 and an "alternate" mxy being referenced as essential reading.
So would you say everything in Vertigo is cannon even if it contradicts what is said in the Main DCU?


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How can that be if there are only 52 universes?


There are only 52 universes shown. We already know that New Earth itself is a combination of literally Thousands of universes. Each of those universes existed before being merged into New Earth.


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So would you say everything in Vertigo is cannon even if it contradicts what is said in the Main DCU?

Everything in vertigo is canon unto vertigo. The difference with vertigo is that the beings who are shown to cross over, haven't done anything to contradict the DCU validity of those BEINGS.


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No. the panel says Long Dead galaxies. we know that stars die. It meant what it said. The galaxies where dead. A galaxy doesn't need life in order to be alive. It only need active star systems.
Um if stars were there to be reignited wouldn't that mean it had stars. Because the star reference came first then the Galaxies. Basically they just didn't have any life therefore Odin could unleash his power without threat of killing other beings. wink


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Um if stars were there to be reignited wouldn't that mean it had stars. Because the star reference came first then the Galaxies. Basically they just didn't have any life therefore Odin could unleash his power without threat of killing other beings. wink


Dead galaxy. No power. Brittle.

Odin didn't unleash his power on his own. he fought another being who did the feat with Him.

Reignited stars would indicate A DEAD galaxy.


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Everything in vertigo is canon unto vertigo. The difference with vertigo is that the beings who are shown to cross over, haven't done anything to contradict the DCU validity of those BEINGS.
But it is written by DCU and is not always cannon to the main DCU. That is the point.

It isn't cannon until it is referenced and once again just because there is only one version of the character doesn't mean it becomes automatically cannon.

Once again Spectre in Vertigo isn't always cannon.

Also the Living tribunal isn't always cannon.


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But it is written by DCU and is not always cannon to the main DCU. That is the point.

It isn't cannon until it is referenced and once again just because there is only one version of the character doesn't mean it becomes automatically cannon.

Once again Spectre in Vertigo isn't always cannon.

Also the Living tribunal isn't always cannon.


Sorry. I don't buy what you are selling. The LT is ALWAYS canon. The Spectre is always canon. And Mxy is ALWAYS canon. Something doesn't have to be referenced by the main dcu. Ok, well since you want main dcu, how about the ultimator. Mxy basically took the blast of a being who was EVERYTHING, and had the power to seal it up so that it could never escape his "plastic Sealed Comic". On panel, he beat everything that DC was. have a good night.


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Odin Respect Thread. All galaxy busting feats. Hope this helps.
http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,117925.0.html


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Odin Respect Thread. All galaxy busting feats. Hope this helps.
http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,117925.0.html


It doesn't. Odin couldn't rock a planet without the help of other skyfathers in his battle with the celestials. Also had to have Thor kill mangog. And I've seen the Dead Galaxy non feat. Alot of Odin's feats and "implications" can be attributed to Darkseid and highfather as well. And Odin has low feats as Does DS. the only difference is Odin is wanked. He should be a pimp with all of the wanking he gets done to him.


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Odin couldn't rock a planet without the help of other skyfathers in his battle with the celestials.

Wait, so because Odin, Zeus and Vishnu used planet moving force, that means that they couldn't have done it on their own? It doesn't say that.


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Wait, so because Odin, Zeus and Vishnu used planet moving force, that means that they couldn't have done it on their own? It doesn't say that.


It did say that the celestial was a threat of the highest order. And if that is all the force they wanted to muster, then they are truly silly Gods who didn't understand the peril of the situation.


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[B]It doesn't. Odin couldn't rock a planet without the help of other skyfathers in his battle with the celestials.


Did it hit the planet and not rock it? No. Don't start your nonsense.

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Also had to have Thor kill mangog.


When was this? Your talking about when Odin was poisoned by Thanos. Mention that please 'cause Odin took Mangog out himself before.

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And I've seen the Dead Galaxy non feat.


If you've seen the dead galaxy feat than don't claim Odin shaking the multiverse feat as forum myth.

And how is that feat a non feat? 'cause you say so huh?

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Alot of Odin's feats and "implications" can be attributed to Darkseid and highfather as well. And Odin has low beats as Does DS. the only difference is Odin is wanked. He should be a pimp with all of the wanking he gets done to him.


The only wanking is you giving to Darkseid's face.


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Did it hit the planet and not rock it? No. Don't start your nonsense.



When was this? Your talking about when Odin was poisoned by Thanos. Mention that please 'cause Odin took Mangog out himself before.



If you've seen the dead galaxy feat than don't claim Odin shaking the multiverse feat as forum myth.

And how is that feat a non feat? 'cause you say so huh?



The only wanking is you giving to Darkseid's face.


First of all kiddie, DEAD galaxy done in battle with another being. It's not shown how the galaxies where destroyed, if one shotted, or pieces at a time. Non Feat.

Shaking the multiverse is a forum myth. last i saw, it said the two fought on every plane of existance. mr. master already showed us what that means in marvel. Means mind, soul, and physical.


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First of all kiddie, DEAD galaxy done in battle with another being. It's not shown how the galaxies where destroyed, if one shotted, or pieces at a time. Non Feat.


More bs from you huh. So let's ignore feats like AM taking a galaxy destroying blast because it was stated and not shown destroying the galaxy right? More non sense.


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Shaking the multiverse is a forum myth. last i saw, it said the two fought on every plane of existance. mr. master already showed us what that means in marvel. Means mind, soul, and physical. [/B]


You thick head, I gave a link to that battle and you say it's doesn't help when that link actually shows the so called "myth" you're harping right now.

...on every plane of reality
http://img50.imageshack.us/my.php?i...nedodin26rj.jpg

...tearing the very fabric of the MULTIVERSE - myth my a$$
http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?...universe8gm.jpg

...simultaneously battle on every plane of existence & long dead galaxies shattered & dying sun reignited.
http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?...inseth030qo.jpg

Here's the link again in case you missed...
http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,117925.0.html


Where's Ganthet's feats again?


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More bs from you huh. So let's ignore feats like AM taking a galaxy destroying blast because it was stated and not shown destroying the galaxy right? More non sense.




You thick head, I gave a link to that battle and you say it's doesn't help when that link actually shows the so called "myth" you're harping right now.

...on every plane of reality
http://img50.imageshack.us/my.php?i...nedodin26rj.jpg

...tearing the very fabric of the MULTIVERSE - myth my a$$
http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?...universe8gm.jpg

...simultaneously battle on every plane of existence & long dead galaxies shattered & dying sun reignited.
http://img134.imageshack.us/my.php?...inseth030qo.jpg

Here's the link again in case you missed...
http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,117925.0.html


Where's Ganthet's feats again?


First of all mr. Tearing at the very fabric of the multiverse is easy. Just tear at the 616. Battling on every plane of existance is also explained. Mind, Soul, physical.
Long dead galaxies tells me nothing. They are dead and the feat is also done in battle with another god.

OH and as for ganthet's feats, for one he created the ring that held a big bang. He is the most powerful of a race of beings who have the power to warp a being like SBP into the multiverse. Thier life force allows SBP to punch into the fifth, have INFINITE power as described by mxy, ect.


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[B]First of all mr. Tearing at the very fabric of the multiverse is easy. Just tear at the 616.


Please, where's proof of that huh?

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Battling on every plane of existance is also explained. Mind, Soul, physical.

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Long dead galaxies tells me nothing. They are dead and the feat is also done in battle with another god.


LOL. It tells you there still galaxies and not just empty space they were impacting. Done with another god? That's funny cause I recall Surtur destroying a galaxy to forge his sword, the sword he needed to prevent Odin to using the full Odin Force.

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OH and as for ganthet's feats, for one he created the ring that held a big bang.


Wow. Big whoop. Didn't Newjak just tell you about Thor used Mjlornir to absorb Grandmaster's bomb that would have destroyed the universe.

And Mjlornir was enchanted by Odin, like Stormbreaker was.

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He is the most powerful of a race of beings who have the power to warp a being like SBP into the multiverse.


Wow, don't you mean a race of beings who each have the power to explode themselves to pieces just to remove SBP and Doomsday to another reality? I recall Odin raising his hand and moving the Earth populace to another dimension. Odin was still in one piece afterwards. I also recall Odin killing top gods of other pantheons and death/hell lords: Zeliah, Forsung, Seth, and Hela.

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Thier life force allows SBP to punch into the fifth, have INFINITE power as described by mxy, ect.


So infinite was their power that they needed to kill themselves to to remove SBP and Doomsday with a GL ring? They die but their opponents aren't? Wow, big fricken whoop. Odin beats down death gods and resurrects them. He kills head gods of other pantheons.

So what's Ganthet's feats and battle feats again? Who'd Ganthet beat and killed?


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