You said that he uses valid logic, but he doesn't.
And yet despite that... trick was still right.
Quanchi and you use fallacies and are wrong. Trick uses fallacies and is right.
I still think its hilarious that you keep tacitly implying that Trick is in the wrong.
Sometimes its better to remain quiet and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Quanchi's bias is pretty evident. especially with that signature of his.
And you would have been spreading false information to the person who has no knowledge. That's not a very nice thing to do either.
I keep attacking it because its a tacit point you're making.
"He never even tried! At least quanchi tried." etc.
He didn't try and was still right. Yoiu stating he didn't use evidence will not change the fact that he was right. You keep trying to take that away or downplay it. but when it coes right down to it you were just as if not more in the wrong than he was. You keep trying to make him seem worse when hes not. Yes, he insults people... that's one or two fallacies. Ad hominem and appeal to ridicule. As opposed to the several that people who use false evidence do?
You can call your erroneous behavior "debating" all you want. but its tatamount to the same thing that you're getting on trick's case for: Bad debating.
And I will point out to you again and again that Trick's Bad debating is greater than your bad debating because he was at least accurate with his conclusion.
Go ahead and say that he didn't use evidence that proves his claims. I will again point out that technically neither did you. False evidence is worse than no evidence.
"He doesn't have any impressive battle feats therefore he loses."
TOAA doesn't have any impressive battle feats, so I guess according to YOUR logic he loses any fight he ggets into so long as the other side has one battle feat.
Again this isnt a comparison I used. it seems you try to to attach faulty comparisons to my name quite a bit.
For one when has the TOAA been described like Yuga has. See in Yuga's appearance Darkseid was stated as having enough power to be killed by Darkseid. The TOAA is completely different. Again what I say is factual.
In closing Thanos is more powerful than Darkseid so it only makes since he can destroy Yuga who beat on Darkseid(because for one he couldnt fight back really) and for two he depowered the other new gods.
Thanos has created a time machine as well. He could pull Darkseid out of the timestream and in effect destroy the whole dc universe along with Darkseid. Foundations my friend.
Thats the story where the legion had to save two Darkseids and the entire dcu universe.
Since he had a time machine he could indeed do this even if he never did it. I was responding to someones claim of Darkseid going back in time to kill Thanos by the way. This happened pre Mistress Death resurrection.
The ig has more impressive on panel feats than the Spectre. The Spectre failed to put down the Am on his own and was utterly raped by an amped Captain Marvel. The Spectre never faced the combined efforts of all who opposed Thanos in the ig story.
Someone saying the Spectre can do whatever he wants fails on so many levels. On panel feats along with infinite power seizes the day. The soul in the Spectre gives it direction but does not increase its power. The Spectre merged with the Presence isnt how the Spectre normally is. Merging the Spectre with the Presence is what you would have to do because the Spectre as is has failed.
Have you read the legion book yet because I thought it wasnt out yet. Superman Prime has the legion of supervillains as well vs Superman and the legion of superheroes. Dont spread any of this misinformation any further.
Ds travelling back in time to deal with someone is rarely used but why cant I use Thanos' time machine in response to this. I can and choose to do so if we are going to debate on whether or not for a forum battle they are allowed to go back in time so this isnt even a forum battle. I responded to a radical point of view.
Darkseids powers have failed though. His omegas were fooled by a fake Supergirl death and were deflected by Marvel and WW as well. His omega effect was outright deflected by Superman's heat vision. His powers arent as reliable as others would have you believe smashey.
Considering the Anti-Monitor was backed by the infinite Multiverse minus 5 Universes and the fact that Spectre didn't know how to use his powers to the fullest extent yet still managed to stop him from fulfilling his goal, it's not really that bad.
Again, considering the fact that Captain Marvel was backed by all that power, Spectre fighting like an idiot and the impact of their fight had repercussions across a 'wide spectreum of magical dimensions', yet he still managed to win in the end, doesn't make it such a low showing. This is also considering the fact that Captain Marvel's power is not quantifiable since he only fought Spectre when he was at that level.
What Thanos w/IG faced and beatdown in the IG-saga is impressive indeed, but not when comparing them to the level Spectre is at.
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The Spectre did manage to stall him but all the heroes were needed as well to stop him. It wasnt just the Spectre but Luthor,Darkseid,Superman,etc. were needed. The Spectre was comatose after his conflict with the Am. So again the Am was to big of a threat for the Spectre and the Spectre alone to defeat.
Captain Marvel wasnt backed by the entire dcu magical realm but by the remaining dcu magical realm which was still very powerful it wasnt near ig level. The Spectre was an idiot due to the fact he was hostless. He wouldnt have escaped if it wasnt for Eclipso who carried him away after Enchantress cut off the power supply.
Please feel free to point me out some of the Spectres impressive feats that you feel the ig would fail to produce.
Yuga and TOAA are completely different. You take things out and focus on only a little to draw faulty conclusions with my logic. Darkseid was stated as having enough power to kill Yuga. He wasnt allowed to though according to the story. Facts. Thanos is more powerful and more durable than Darkseid. Therefore he kills Yuga Khan, as Yuga cant depower him.
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