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Darkseid once said that Querl Dox wasn't even sentient, that doesn't mean its the case. The Spectre calling PS an insect=/=the PS actually being an insect to him.
We've had two interactions with these characters I know of on panel. One had the Spectre turn him into a harmless mouse like it was nothing. The second was easily casting him aside while at the same time suppressing the Spectre from breaking from from the bn hold.


Yeah, pretty much nothing when stacked up against the Spectre unlike Nabu and Shazam.
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Because Odin and Thanos' feats are greater as are their showings.


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We've had two interactions with these characters I know of on panel. One had the Spectre turn him into a harmless mouse like it was nothing. The second was easily casting him aside while at the same time suppressing the Spectre from breaking from from the bn hold.


Yeah, pretty much nothing when stacked up against the Spectre unlike Nabu and Shazam. Because Odin and Thanos' feats are greater as are their showings.

Phantom Stranger being weak in comparison to the Spectre really doesn't mean much considering what the Spectre is. Neither Odin nor Thanos are anywhere close to the Spectre at his high showings or even his low showings. DOV Spectre was the Spectre at one of his weakest moments and he still raped the DCU.
This is the how the Spectre and Phantom Stranger stack up:
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But that is Spectre written by Moore, when Moore wrote the Spectre he was more like the Living Tribunal than the Spectre we know today so him being much greater than the Phantom Stranger is expected. Today the difference isn't nearly as great, its not like the Phantom Stranger has ever actively tried to destroy the Spectre and in Blackest Night he's trying to reason with him, not fight him.


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Phantom Stranger being weak in comparison to the Spectre really doesn't mean much considering what the Spectre is. Neither Odin nor Thanos are anywhere close to the Spectre at his high showings or even his low showings. DOV Spectre was the Spectre at one of his weakest moments and he still raped the DCU.
This is the how the Spectre and Phantom Stranger stack up:
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But that is Spectre written by Moore, when Moore wrote the Spectre he was more like the Living Tribunal than the Spectre we know today so him being much greater than the Phantom Stranger is expected. Today the difference isn't nearly as great, its not like the Phantom Stranger has ever actively tried to destroy the Spectre and in Blackest Night he's trying to reason with him, not fight him.
The point is even at his lowest showing which you yourself can agree on Ps is nowhere near him while characters like Shazam can practically kill him minus the magical absorption thing.

He'd notice Thanos and Odin and feel their attacks unlike Ps.


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The point is even at his lowest showing which you yourself can agree on Ps is nowhere near him while characters like Shazam can practically kill him minus the magical absorption thing.

He'd notice Thanos and Odin and feel their attacks unlike Ps.

Shazam in the ROE>>>>Odin or Thanos. erm

Also PS was a threat to the Spectre in DOV, otherwise he wouldn't be a priority target.


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Shazam in the ROE>>>>Odin or Thanos. erm

Also PS was a threat to the Spectre in DOV, otherwise he wouldn't be a priority target.
I disagree.

Ps was a high level magic user but he was easily defeated. To call him a threat at this point based on the two showings is laughable. It's unheard of. The love Ps gets which he doesn't deserve is ridiculous.


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I disagree.

Ps was a high level magic user but he was easily defeated. To call him a threat at this point based on the two showings is laughable. It's unheard of. The love Ps gets which he doesn't deserve is ridiculous.

If he wasn't a threat why would the Spectre go after him first? And why would Zatanna call him a "big gun"?


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If he wasn't a threat why would the Spectre go after him first? And why would Zatanna call him a "big gun"?
All I know is he was easily defeated without even so much as a fight and the other showing he was called an insect and tossed aside like some chick. That's not impressive. I don't care if they call Ps the hottest thing since sliced bread he didn't deliver.


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All I know is he was easily defeated without even so much as a fight and the other showing he was called an insect and tossed aside like some chick. That's not impressive. I don't care if they call Ps the hottest thing since sliced bread he didn't deliver.

We didn't see the whole fight the first time around and the second time around he was trying to reason with the Spectre, not fight him.


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We didn't see the whole fight the first time around and the second time around he was trying to reason with the Spectre, not fight him.
We have two encounters and in one Spectre easily defeats him. In the second his blows have no effect. You can live in your own fantasy world if you want but it's just that a fantasy world. My opinion is always backed by comics while yours isn't.


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We have two encounters and in one Spectre easily defeats him. In the second his blows have no effect. You can live in your own fantasy world if you want but it's just that a fantasy world. My opinion is always backed by comics while yours isn't.

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Your opinions are rarely ever backed by anything but your own skewed logic. We don't know how long the PS fight lasted in DOV, we only saw the end.


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Your opinions are rarely ever backed by anything but your own skewed logic. We don't know how long the PS fight lasted in DOV, we only saw the end.
Again, with what we saw from two appearances by the Ps was a whole lot of nothing against the Spectre.


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The Quintessence WTF stomp.

DC Zeus is downplayed seriously in this forum.
I'd say that the weakest of the Quintessence is Ganthet.
DC Zeus has trashed Wonder Woman without even being in the same plane of existence with her and was about to kill her and her mother before being interupted by Hera, recreated Olympus and moved it atop the actual mountain in Greece, created an island with rivers of gold out of nothing, can grow to giant size (big enough to dwarf an island), killed Kane Milohai (they fought in giant form and Zeus was struck by a firestorm or something but was ok before killing Kane with lightning and then ripping his heart), banished Ares from Themiscyra, defeated & imrisoned Ares in Tartarus while Ares was at his peak power durring the Imperiex war, absorbed the immortality that the godesses granted Wonder Woman, used the power of the pantheons to break the Shattered God again (a being that made Ganthet afraid for the first time)
His power combined with that of Poseidon and Hades was described as being able to rupture the universe & "destruction to the infinite". Ares himself stated that he cannot disobey him.
Zeus, Jove (his other half) and DC Odin caused the Source to divide.
Plus some of his feats were when he was split in two lesser gods before their reunion.
Hera with a wave of her hand destroyed 7 islands and she is nowhere near her husband in power.

I'd say that DC Zeus is far from weak and actually the definition of a skyfather in DC (people just need to read about him).
So yeah the Quintessence WTF stomp 10/10

Goes without saying that Thanos is a non factor in this battle.


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The Quintessence WTF stomp.

DC Zeus is downplayed seriously in this forum.
I'd say that the weakest of the Quintessence is Ganthet.
DC Zeus has trashed Wonder Woman without even being in the same plane of existence with her and was about to kill her and her mother before being interupted by Hera, recreated Olympus and moved it atop the actual mountain in Greece, created an island with rivers of gold out of nothing, can grow to giant size (big enough to dwarf an island), killed Kane Milohai (they fought in giant form and Zeus was struck by a firestorm or something but was ok before killing Kane with lightning and then ripping his heart), banished Ares from Themiscyra, defeated & imrisoned Ares in Tartarus while Ares was at his peak power durring the Imperiex war, absorbed the immortality that the godesses granted Wonder Woman, used the power of the pantheons to break the Shattered God again (a being that made Ganthet afraid for the first time)
His power combined with that of Poseidon and Hades was described as being able to rupture the universe & "destruction to the infinite". Ares himself stated that he cannot disobey him.
Zeus, Jove (his other half) and DC Odin caused the Source to divide.
Plus some of his feats were when he was split in two lesser gods before their reunion.
Hera with a wave of her hand destroyed 7 islands and she is nowhere near her husband in power.

I'd say that DC Zeus is far from weak and actually the definition of a skyfather in DC (people just need to read about him).
So yeah the Quintessence WTF stomp 10/10

Goes without saying that Thanos is a non factor in this battle.
Saying Thanos is a nonfactor in this fight is one of the most ignorant responses I've read in a while. read up on Thanos, please.


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The Quintessence WTF stomp.

DC Zeus is downplayed seriously in this forum.
I'd say that the weakest of the Quintessence is Ganthet.
DC Zeus has trashed Wonder Woman without even being in the same plane of existence with her and was about to kill her and her mother before being interupted by Hera, recreated Olympus and moved it atop the actual mountain in Greece, created an island with rivers of gold out of nothing, can grow to giant size (big enough to dwarf an island), killed Kane Milohai (they fought in giant form and Zeus was struck by a firestorm or something but was ok before killing Kane with lightning and then ripping his heart), banished Ares from Themiscyra, defeated & imrisoned Ares in Tartarus while Ares was at his peak power durring the Imperiex war, absorbed the immortality that the godesses granted Wonder Woman, used the power of the pantheons to break the Shattered God again (a being that made Ganthet afraid for the first time)
His power combined with that of Poseidon and Hades was described as being able to rupture the universe & "destruction to the infinite". Ares himself stated that he cannot disobey him.
Zeus, Jove (his other half) and DC Odin caused the Source to divide.
Plus some of his feats were when he was split in two lesser gods before their reunion.
Hera with a wave of her hand destroyed 7 islands and she is nowhere near her husband in power.

I'd say that DC Zeus is far from weak and actually the definition of a skyfather in DC (people just need to read about him).
So yeah the Quintessence WTF stomp 10/10

Goes without saying that Thanos is a non factor in this battle.


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