Tyrant scraped Galactus' face. he also didn't seem to know that tyrant could absorb the bse energy he used to power himself up for the fight.
Your example of comparing BrB's hammer shot to Odin inside the destroyer armor is so off I don't know where to begin. Odin's shown power capable of destroying galaxies, oneshotting the Surfer, etc. yet you compare him in the destroyer armor to a planet shattering strike by BrB.
Wow.
No, I feel a slight itch. galactus hadn't felt pain in a long time when Thor struck him. Big difference.
4th host of the Celestials are more powerful than Galactus and outnumber him. Odin has the power or the ability to sever G limbs. He's done for here.
Have you aside from that one incident seen Galactus needing technology in order to damage a foe of his own caliber in combat? Fairly simple question imo. I personally haven't.
True, however the majority of those low showings gets blown from here and to the moon when we enter a forum match.
I'm not questioning the legality of the showing, but rather how much it can actually be used anymore. Characters progress I'm not using the SS, Thor or Odin from 1967 when I gauge a fight because new showings have made the older showings well outdated. The Tyrant one? Yeah that is about it isn't it? And what amount of damage did Tyrants energy blast do? Yes correct nothing.
And again completely forgetting Infinity War 4 where Galactus reformed, not that I really care but just interesting that you keep forgetting it.
Doesn't change that Tyrants own energy blasts did absolutely no form of prolonged Damage towards Galactus. And as previously mentioned based on how you perceive Galactus as a Physical or Semi Abstract, you either look at it as PIS or fact.
I'm not pulling that out of my hat, the Destroyer blows against a Celestial was said to destroy a planet. If you don't believe me, not my problem, read the scan. http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/...hor30028bf0.jpg
Yet he momentarily feels pain. Oxford kindly labels that as a Instant, which is basically nothing.
I'm not questioning whether or not the fourth Host combined power is above that of Galactus own unless certain rules are invoked. What you from my point of view have entirely failed to take into the equation concerning the battle so far is. 1: The destroyer needs to get close to begin his chopping. 2: The Celestials energy blasts was knocking him back 3: The Celestial basically used around 4-5 blast to bring down the Destroyer 4. Outnumbering played no real part since the Celestials didn't take advantage of it. 5: Galactus can (again) reform his entire body through Will alone, what exactly are you reason for constantly neglecting that?
My point is that we are either dealing with a character that was very badly defined, or my personal view, a very very very weak Galactus since he had to rely on that technology in order to attack.
Which is what I personally call, bad writing.
I don't recall the circumstances of him being destroyed, only Death arriving to true and halt Galactus from reforming which failed.
And you haven't given a single reason for the Destroyer to win beyond the chopping, which I honestly doesn't think is going to work. What do would you like to see in order for Galactus to win? Blasts at the same level as those of the Celestials? Can't give you any because the Celestials have never really used it on anything beside the Destroyer and each other so nothing to compare it too in 616.
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Do you honestly think the amped destroyer's attacks were comparable to planet destroying attacks alone? Seriously?
I see no reason why/how Galactus could beat him before Odin can close the gap. I also see blasts from odin rocking Galactus as well.
Odin also managed to cleave a celestial and he was facing multiple opponents.
Celestials are more powerful than Galactus anyways.
Galactus didn't do so against tyrant, Thor, at the end of galactus the devourer, against T and A. you are trying to make him into some unstoappable juggernaut.
Odin wins based on his power,durability, his sword.
That isn't my opinion that is what the scan clearly points out, if you are going to disagree with the scan simply because it furthers you own ends be my guest. Ultimately not my problem, because as things are we only have one incident with the full powered Destroyer from which to gauge it's power, and I'm not going to neglect what was shown in that encounter, concerning the destroyer, simply because you don't like it.
I didn't see a single blast from the Destroyer hitting a Celestial so can't be sure on how big a impact the blast will have on Galactus but, yes will probably rock him to, if he doesn't dodge it. Either way the greater the distance the greater problems for the Destroyer.
Because the opponent didn't move a single muscle but was just standing there looking at him, he didn't dodge or in any way tried to avoid the destroyers slash. Galactus imo will.
Again your opinion, I disagree.
Hardly, If I was trying to make him into that I would try much much harder have no worries, it would be something like a mental attack on the Destroyer while summoning in meteors to rain down apon the destroyer while blasting it with energy blasts while making black holes around it and sucking the lifeforce from the souls inside into him As I have mentioned already in this thread I see this battle as a bloody hard one for Galactus and the Destroyer I don't in any way see it to be as simple as a few slashes is what is going to determind the outcome of this fight.
Durability 4-5 attacks and it's down... power unknown, strength known and not pretty.
It's common sense though. we have seen the writer of King Thor further expand he wasn't at galaxy busting levels but moreso a planet destroyer. Does this mean Gldiator can behead a desak powered destroyer?
LOL at you even entertaining the thought of galactus dodging a blast.
Based on which showings? Back your case up with examples not wishful thinking.
It was put down by the Celestials whose power exceeds that of Galactus.
I see this as being brutal but the odinsword spelling disaster for Galactus.
As I mentioned that was a personal view of mine, which is the only logical way apart from the other one, why Galactus would rely on technology to fight his battle for him.
I consider myself a fan that knows when my Galactus will win easy, medium or hard or loss same way around, This battle I see Galactus winning after a hard fight. It's as simple as that.
He did reform.
Yes I did, now ask yourself how many times the Celestials was hit after they had seen the Odinsword in action, none. If Galactus knows (which I based on the basic rules on a versus would say he does) that the sword is going to cut of his limbs, he isn't going to stand there like the Celestial and let himself be struck by it, unless a recent showing portrays him as outright retarded, he will do his best to avoid or destroy it as quickly as possible but that is my opinion on the fight.
And the relevance of this information in regards to the combat concerning the Destroyer and the Celestials is?
It would be entertaining if he hadn't already dodged one.
Like you are doing atm Quanchi? Which part of it do you want proven the one dodge scene or more?
It was immobilised by 4-5 shoots Quanchi that was what it toke to down it. I can be large and say that Galactus maybe requires 8-10 to get it down and can then begin to hammer at it until it's dead, but it still don't change the fact that I honestly doesn't see the Destroyer getting close enough to do any real damage with it's sword before it's down.
What exactly don't you see it change his powerlevel (he was hungry we know that much) or the circumstances the scan represents?
According to your opinion.
He reformed them to.
So we should ignore forum rules then and also assume that the Cosmic awarness is hokus pokus? Teleporting is the most obvious choice as already mentioned. If he can teleport Taa II to any location in the universe then he can move himself too.
The slashes? I see a few ways, the most obvious is to teleport away from the destroyer when it gets in to close, but since you don't think that is in Galactus character, lets ignore that and look at it from a more battle oriented perspective. Galactus have never been afraid to get in and wrestle with his opponents (in h2h though) and have managed that situation quite well, so what I can imagine happen is him trying to get a hold of the arm holding the Odinsword and do what Arishem did and try and melt it, or simply fire a blast straight at the hand so the Destroyer drops it. That I believe would be more in Character for Galactus. *shrug*
to be honest this is a Wheel in a Circus atm, thanks for the debate Quanchi but we might as well accept that neither of us are going to change our opinion. Agree to disagree?
Galactus wins this. And I scoff at the idea that Galactus couldn't regenerate his own limbs when the marvel handbook lists "restructuring molecules" as one of many, many his powers.