Originally posted by Starscream M
you're making this crap up...godblast is always the same level of power...doesn't depend on thor's state of being.
No, no and no.
The God Blast obviously varies. The fact that against the Celestial with double the fortification it could not handle the power being channeled through it and exploded, and in other instances it did not is all the prove you need of that.
The God Blast stems from Thor's own Godly energies. You don't think Thor's own physical health and condition would have an effect on it? At the time, a part of Loki's essence was in Thor's body causing the seizures and draining him of strength and power. I'd say it's a safe bet that it had an effect.
Now remember this conversation. I don't want to repeat this shit to you, like next week in a different thread.
you can change the amount of gun powder in a 9mm round giving it different levels of power/velocities, but its still a 9mm. same concept with thors godblast. i believe that if the belt of strength doubles thors abilities, it would probably double the power that is channeled into the godblast also....
did thor have any specifics when he used the godblast against galactus? i was under the impression that it was the same one used against juggernaut. considering that thor also stated that the dizzy and nausea had left his limbs or something similar before he godblasted juggernaut. i dont think that affected it much if at all.
Originally posted by KillAllall of you guys are assuming.... 🙄 Show me ON PANEL when thor has thor ever said he uses different levels of God Blast... 😎 you CAN´T so stop it...ITS on Panel and untill its Retconed I will always use it as a feat.... 😮💨
you can change the amount of gun powder in a 9mm round giving it different levels of power/velocities, but its still a 9mm. same concept with thors godblast. i believe that if the belt of strength doubles thors abilities, it would probably double the power that is channeled into the godblast also....did thor have any specifics when he used the godblast against galactus? i was under the impression that it was the same one used against juggernaut. considering that thor also stated that the dizzy and nausea had left his limbs or something similar before he godblasted juggernaut. i dont think that affected it much if at all.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympusshow me on panel where it says godblast changes powersNow remember this conversation. I don't want to repeat this shit to you, like next week in a different thread.
I don't care if it is depicted differently artisticly...that doesn't give you the freedom to pull things outta your behind without actual written support
Originally posted by KillAll
you can change the amount of gun powder in a 9mm round giving it different levels of power/velocities, but its still a 9mm. same concept with thors godblast. i believe that if the belt of strength doubles thors abilities, it would probably double the power that is channeled into the godblast also....did thor have any specifics when he used the godblast against galactus? i was under the impression that it was the same one used against juggernaut. considering that thor also stated that the dizzy and nausea had left his limbs or something similar before he godblasted juggernaut. i dont think that affected it much if at all.
Uh what? It's still a God Blast but obviously on a lower level. The one against Galactus, Thor needed a stand to make it easier to channel the power.
No what the Belt did was double Mjolnir's fortifications. It did not, amp the God Blast.
Same attack. Clearly different level.
The seizure had passed but each one left him weaker than before it passed.
Originally posted by KillAllmost of the elder gods are demons, cytorak could very well be one he was present when the elder gods were around.
you dont know WHAT cyttorak is, let alone his power levels.... got any scans or anything that says he's anything other than a demon??? i mean really, where do you draw this conclusion from??i'm not even sure what cyttorak has to do with this, this isnt cyttorak vs odin, so clearly the spelling out needs to be done for YOU.
this is juggernaut vs odin. odin could easily amp himself to at the very bare minumum to stalemate the juggernaut indefinately.
Originally posted by Starscream M
show me on panel where it says godblast changes powersI don't care if it is depicted differently artisticly...that doesn't give you the freedom to pull things outta your behind without actual written support
What? I'm not talking about anything artistically related. Thor literally needed to double Mjolnir's fortifications for the God Blast against the Exitar and it still shattered. Against Juggernaut it did not, without any enhancements. All the evidence needed to prove that it fluctuates depending on how power Thor puts behind it is write there.
I'm not pulling anything out of my ass. You're going out of your way to try and not understand something obvious.
Juggernaut has had horrible showings. I remember when Beast removed his powers when he pulled his helmet off. Shit like that is a lot worse than the Thor fight. Yes Beast from the X-men. Amazing Adventures #16 I believe.
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
juggernaut is more durable than any version of galactus. even oblivion couldnt hurt him who is the guy that orders maelstrom aroundm
Oblivion could not hurt him?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Juggernaut has had horrible showings. I remember when Beast removed his powers when he pulled his helmet off. Shit like that is a lot worse than the Thor fight. Yes Beast from the X-men. Amazing Adventures #16 I believe.Oblivion could not hurt him?
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
oblivion couldnt hurt him, and this is thhey that ends the very fabric of reallty at the end of the cycle in order for a new one to be created, ridiculous feat for juggs
Issue number?
I remember Eternity banishing Nightmare and Cain to Oblivion, and Juggernaut returned as a result of Dormammu taking Strange through his minions to the town.
Don't remember Oblivion failing to hurt Juggernaut.