Dude if you put your hands on someone know you may get hit in the face. What did superman expect him to turn around and hug him?? I never said supes lost, but Hercules did put him through a wall with no trouble.
P.S. maybe customs are different in Ireland than in the USA. If you come here NEVER just grab someone...you will get knocked out
I'm actually amused that you think Irish people aren't prone to fighting. Whether it's true or not, it's nice to see that not everyone loves that stereotype.
At least you agreed that it wasn't a fight though, which was my original point.
They were "amalgamated" but the deities didn't fuse into a single deity, at least not as how you understand it. LT and Spectre were actually peons as compared to the "Brothers" in the story.
Wait, what? Why would I need a rebuttal to that, when I never argued otherwise? All I argued is that him using Atlas for strength is something that puts him above his normal strength levels, and thus Superman stalemating him, in that specific instance, shows that he is stronger under normal strength levels.
So you counter-argument for Cap clearly amplifying his strength abnormally - using Atlas for strength instead of stamina - is to use instances that have nothing to do with this one, and showing that Cap inexplicably is still portrayed as being able to match Superman? Congratulations Jake, you're proving my point.
Seriously, you can't see why they have nothing to do with our discussion, as they take place after the topic of discussion - which is Superman stalemating an amped Captain Marvel's strength, Superman getting a huge upgrade, and Captain Marvel still illogically stalemating him afterwards prior to the upgrades you brought up?
Even after I drew you a chart that a kindergarden level would understand?
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This is simply amazing, Jake.
Who said anything about writing it off? Stop putting words and stances in my mouth. I never argued that within continuity that's the way things stand - all I did was to argue that is was a company policy. It doesn't actually change its validity.
You can't even follow A>B>C>D type of events.
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Superman and Captain Marvel are near equals physically. Even today.
Get. Over. It.
Jesus.
Upgrades mean shit if his standing among super heroes remains the same. Who cares if he can now move a planetary sized body when a decade ago he couldn't?
Clark doesn't run around stomping past peers. If he encountered Orion, Captain Marvel, or Black Adam next Wednesday, chances are it'd be a stalemate.
He shines more than them, but that's always been the case. That comes with the territory in DC. He'll always be the number 1 hero and will get the most lip service. That was the case 10 years ago, and will be the case 10 years from now more than likely.
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