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carver9
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No.

and stop arguing SVFL.

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Warpath should win, though.

I know what you are trying to do. Superman and Flash isn't PIS either. I never understood why you all thought that when CIS plays a HUGE part with anything involving Flash. He has the most CIS out of any KMC character imo.

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Plus I'm not even sure on how many "Heralds" he took on.

depends what classified as a herald. Is herc and Thor consider heralds?

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I'm willing to give legit wins due to CIS for example if he should have defeated Absorbing Man by cutting him apart cause AM is an idiot.

But if you're reffering to shit like the Count Nefaria incident consider yourself facepalmed.

Plus I'm not even sure on how many "Heralds" he took on.

EDIT: The problem with you is you tend to blow shit out of proportion.

Why not include Nefaria? Isn't he a physical being? Has there been incidents where he resisted adamantium claws?

Wolverine has faced numerous of Heralds, the main ones are Hulk and Thor.

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That Nefaria incident was straight up jobbing due to the Bendis Power. And shits on Nefaria's prior history of taking on good Avenger rosters and kicking their ass.

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depends what classified as a herald. Is herc and Thor consider heralds?

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f95/t447826.html

I know he took on at least 2 (Hulk, Thor) I was curious about the rest and if there are so many.

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That Nefaria incident was straight up jobbing due to the Bendis Power. And shits on Nefaria's prior history of taking on good Avenger rosters and kicking their ass.

That's not even the reason, Ms Marvel drained power from him and Wolverine attacked from behind. You could literally given everyone adamantium claws and the result would have been the same.

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I know what you are trying to do. Superman and Flash isn't PIS either. I never understood why you all thought that when CIS plays a HUGE part with anything involving Flash. He has the most CIS out of any KMC character imo.

Flash is actually a mixture of the two.

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That's not even the reason, Ms Marvel drained power from him and Wolverine attacked from behind. You could literally given everyone adamantium claws and the result would have been the same.

The whole fight was shit.

Luke Cage phasing Nefaria to begin with is shit. Carol should of been crushed in seconds by Nefaria in all honesty.

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http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f95/t447826.html

I know he took on at least 2 (Hulk, Thor) I was curious about the rest and if there are so many.

well he foughten hulk 14 plus times
Thor once (twice counting debatable alternate reality)
Hercules twice
count once
sentry once
pheniox a few times
firelord

hmmm trying to think of more.

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well he foughten hulk 14 plus times
Thor once (twice counting debatable alternate reality)
Hercules twice
count once
sentry once
pheniox a few times
firelord

hmmm trying to think of more.

I don't have a prob with Hulk incidents cause Hulk's only option are blows, Thor at least imo also tends to slug stuff out most of the time, as for Herc see Hulk. Wolverine defeating them is at least in the range of possibility (I would let their supporters defend them though). If Thor would use his powers properly he would demolish Wolverine though.

Sentry tooled him (and arguebly resisted adamantium claws but let's not get into this here.).

Don't know about Phoenix and Firelord.

I totally give Wolverine his Brick-Buster title but as soon as he meets versatile Heralds he should have next to no chance as long as they fight not like complete idiots. Wolverine is a close combat character designed to take punishment and dish out heavy damage as soon as someone has the range advantge and a decent damage output Wolverine's chances went toward 0.

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but as soon as he meets versatile Heralds he should have next to no chance as long as they fight not like complete idiots. Wolverine is a close combat character designed to take punishment and dish out heavy damage as soon as someone has the range advantge and a decent damage output Wolverine's chances went toward 0.

Exactly......if people like namor fought smart they would rape Wolverine.

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Exactly......if people like namor fought smart they would rape Wolverine.

Namor has a range advantage? confused

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Namor has a range advantage?

Yep the ability to fly and use weapons like trees, boluders, cars...etc

Jun 10th, 2011 07:05 PM

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I don't have a prob with Hulk incidents cause Hulk's only option are blows, Thor at least imo also tends to slug stuff out most of the time, as for Herc see Hulk. Wolverine defeating them is at least in the range of possibility (I would let their supporters defend them though). If Thor would use his powers properly he would demolish Wolverine though.

Owe I was just listing who he foughten, not who he beaten as heralds. I just answering the question or attempting to.

Though I agree with your statement. I think in melee, personally he give Thor hell, but if Thor used his powers to there potential, he dominate.

I personally think Wolverine would beat Herc (as long as he aint the ubber one)

I also Personally think he give Hulk hell, but stand no chance of victory.

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Sentry tooled him (and arguebly resisted adamantium claws but let's not get into this here.).

Don't know about Phoenix and Firelord.

Owe I agree, I just listing who he foughten that were heralds, I was nto implying he did well or won.

He fought them mainly as groups, but he did fight pheonix one on one before.

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I totally give Wolverine his Brick-Buster title but as soon as he meets versatile Heralds he should have next to no chance as long as they fight not like complete idiots. Wolverine is a close combat character designed to take punishment and dish out heavy damage as soon as someone has the range advantge and a decent damage output Wolverine's chances went toward 0.

I agree for the most part.

Jun 10th, 2011 07:06 PM

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Yep the ability to fly and use weapons like trees, boluders, cars...etc

which he rarely ever uses and almost always goes melee, but lets ignore the character history shall we roll eyes (sarcastic)

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Exactly......if people like namor fought smart they would rape Wolverine.

Namor would not rape wolverine in the least.

Jun 10th, 2011 07:07 PM

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My post was more meant to put Carvers "he took on Heralds" statement down.

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which he rarely ever uses and almost always goes melee, but lets ignore the character history shall we

But if he did you know he would own Wolverine. Just admit it. If Namor didn't fight like he was retarded he would kill wolverine. roll eyes (sarcastic)

Jun 10th, 2011 07:12 PM

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But if he did you know he would own Wolverine. Just admit it. If Namor didn't fight like he was retarded he would kill wolverine.

No he wouldent, and he doesent. We have ample examples of him failing to even with assistance from others, and him straight out stating inferiority to wolverine. But lets simply ignore all that shall we roll eyes (sarcastic)

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Also what to stop wolverine from using his stealth? nothing.

Jun 10th, 2011 07:17 PM

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Why is it PIS when Firelord powers, everything about him revolves around his power cosmic? Then that's not including the fact that Spiderman isn't just blitzing him with peak human punches but it 10 to 20 tons of force and he was doing it consistently.

Same thing happened to masterson. Those types of punches takes its toll.

He wasn't really coming close to KOing Masterson, though.

I can buy Spidey making someone on Thors level feel it, but he shouldn't cause any real damage...

Otherwise, Black Tarantula is way, WAY above Thor/Herald class, and well into Kurse territory...

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