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Lucifer vs. Superman: Battle of willpower only
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Thanos loses. I still don't see why quan is arguing when most have said lucifer wins.

Hulbuster- sometimes its easier to kill something/someone than to break their will. Doomsday killing superman doesn't mean that superman's will was broken. How they go together is beyond me.

May 29th, 2012 12:11 AM

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...Thanos isn't in this thread, though?

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Thanos seems to be in every thread these days.

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Being completely honest, we all know that Quan is never going to go against Thanos, and really it's not funny anymore in terms of Quan's irrational backing of him regardless of the circumstances as well as the slew of bait/spite threads just to draw him out.

It's whatever at this point.

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May 29th, 2012 04:46 AM

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Originally posted by biensalsa
Not really, He cannot even will heroes out of existence even with the powers of a pre retcon beyonder, the power was too much for his will.

That wasn't the entire Doom.

Noob.

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Being completely honest, we all know that Quan is never going to go against Thanos, and really it's not funny anymore in terms of Quan's irrational backing of him regardless of the circumstances as well as the slew of bait/spite threads just to draw him out.

It's whatever at this point.

See, I've never actually found Quan particularly funny, not here, and definitely not when he invaded my turf over in game versus. That's why I at least appreciate assclowns like carver. Carver is hilarious in his tomfoolery. Quan isn't.

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That wasn't the entire Doom.

Noob.

OK???

There is a difference between having lots of will and being to stupid to understand that You have been beaten enough.

In this regards is not that Lex Luthor has a lot of will is just that He does not know better. The same goes for certain character that has been almost beaten in every single Fantastic Four Comic book.

"Quitters never win, Winners never quit, but those who never quit and never win are idiots"

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OK???

There is a difference between having lots of will and being to stupid to understand that You have been beaten enough.

In this regards is not that Lex Luthor has a lot of will is just that He does not know better. The same goes for certain character that has been almost beaten in every single Fantastic Four Comic book.

"Quitters never win, Winners never quit, but those who never quit and never win are idiots"

....so you're actually arguing Doom doesn't have a lot of willpower?

Also comparing Luthor to Doom never ends well for Lex.

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OK???

There is a difference between having lots of will and being to stupid to understand that You have been beaten enough.

In this regards is not that Lex Luthor has a lot of will is just that He does not know better. The same goes for certain character that has been almost beaten in every single Fantastic Four Comic book.

"Quitters never win, Winners never quit, but those who never quit and never win are idiots"

Doom's soul was fragmented because Beyonder plucked him out of time.

It was explained for the reason as to why he wasn't able to control Beyonder's powers.

What are you even talking about?

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....so you're actually arguing Doom doesn't have a lot of willpower?

Also comparing Luthor to Doom never ends well for Lex.

He does but not enough to challenge Lucifer. Which is not a bad thing.

And I don't think Lex will fare that bad vs Doom.

I have to say Doom is cooler, but from there to have Luthor to fear Doom? Nah!

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He does but not enough to challenge Lucifer. Which is not a bad thing.

And I don't think Lex will fare that bad vs Doom.

I have to say Doom is cooler, but from there to have Luthor to fear Doom? Nah!

Okay.

Well, you'd be wrong. He'd do pretty horribly, actually.

You're right that Doom is much cooler than Luthor. You're wrong in thinking Luthor has nothing to fear from Doom.

Hope I helped. smile

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He does but not enough to challenge Lucifer. Which is not a bad thing.

And I don't think Lex will fare that bad vs Doom.

I have to say Doom is cooler, but from there to have Luthor to fear Doom? Nah!

Luther is vastly inferior to Doom in everything meaningful.

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Doom's soul was fragmented because Beyonder plucked him out of time.

It was explained for the reason as to why he wasn't able to control Beyonder's powers.

What are you even talking about?

I'm talking about how many times he has been defeated by the FF.

Have you ever read a FF comic? Every single comic book is the same thing.

Doom comes with a "master plan" to defeat the FF and then He fails. and this happens almost every month is as annoying as Lex Luthor

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I'm talking about how many times he has been defeated by the FF.

Have you ever read a FF comic? Every single comic book is the same thing.

Doom comes with a "master plan" to defeat the FF and then He fails. and this happens almost every month is as annoying as Lex Luthor

Your comment had nothing to do with what we were talking about.

Have you ever had a coherent discussion?

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May 29th, 2012 05:22 AM

Rao Kal El
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Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Okay.

Well, you'd be wrong. He'd do pretty horribly, actually.

You're right that Doom is much cooler than Luthor. You're wrong in thinking Luthor has nothing to fear from Doom.

Hope I helped.

Not really, but the effort is appreciated.

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May 29th, 2012 05:26 AM

JakeTheBank
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I'm talking about how many times he has been defeated by the FF.

Have you ever read a FF comic? Every single comic book is the same thing.

Doom comes with a "master plan" to defeat the FF and then He fails. and this happens almost every month is as annoying as Lex Luthor

You seem to be glossing over the times Doom has beaten the F4 or other heroes as well as how a good deal of his "losses" are nothing to be ashamed of.

Not true.

He's beaten them numerous times. And he's achieved his principal goals as well. It took Lex how many decades to get ultimate power? Doom's done that half a dozen times at least.

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Your comment had nothing to do with what we were talking about.

Have you ever had a coherent discussion?

Ok, so You think Doom has more will than Lucifer, good for You. You are wrong, but good for You.

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May 29th, 2012 05:27 AM

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You know, Mindset isn't God or anything like that. You don't have to capitalise "you" when speaking with him. He doesn't deserve it.

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