some of the list above are impaired by their personality.
I see adam doing better than CM (and possibly Thor) due to not restraining. Surfer while having all the tools to smash her, is a space ghandi who wouldn't do his worse. as for Jonn I really hate how always is written as a second stringer. going all out he should be a Fernus level threat
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Supes considering her as #2 means as much as J'onn considering himself as strong as Supes. Nova's arch enemy is a reality warper. It doesn't all of a sudden elevate him to high herald status.
CM to me is high herald. Way too many times he's portrayed as Clark's equal or at least really right up there like a 1a and 1b type of explanation. Never have I seen Diana approach those portrayals. Never..
PG was not tooled. Tooled is Ultraman crushing BA's face. There was some mind foolery going on there too.
I just don't see Achilles a solid mid. I need more than him beating Erads. In terms of his strengths, he's just not as strong, as durable, as versatile, and as powerful as real mid heralds..
Cheetah is mid at best but more like low. She has a power set that can fukk with beings above her from time to time, but I don't see her constantly hangin with real mid herald studs. When she can regularly beat guys like Stardust, Firelord, Nova Prime, Power Girl, Guy Gardner, etc, call me...
And lastly, I'm sexist. So there!
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Yet your argument is based on these examples of her being behind Superman. Even though the statements are pretty clearly 'she's *right* behind Superman,' you leave part of it out.
Plus, it's not like it's just Superman, Batman holds the same opinion, J'onn has no objection to it, etc..
If one with regularly fights and beats a variety of trans strait up, it at least shows one to be quite effective against that type of foes.
And it's not like Nova takes his arch enemy reality warper strait up the way Wonder Woman does Circe.
Yea, funny you say that when Diana has a better track record against Superman. If you're ranking CM as higher due to his record against Superman when Diana has a better record, you've got some wires mixed up.
Going by your statements on how you rank CM, we pretty much gotta rank WW as high herald. There's no other way it makes sense.
Ok, she 'easily dodged attacks and outmaneuvered her when she got serious, and was unbothered by PG punching her to Canada.'
Well lesse, he flat-out outpowered Erads, he's got a special power to prevent him from getting hit, he's got a spear of the gods, and he's got regen of a level where a heart hit is a temporary inconvenience.
This, again, seems to be a case of you're ranking low because you want to rank low/preconceived notions, but it really doesn't match with the performance.
She's faster than Superman/Diana, faster than any non-flash, and has near-WW strength.
In a blitz, the way she normal fights? She could take out most mids. Ranged fliers are admittedly a problem, but get 'em near the ground and she'll be quite overwhelming and could take 'em out pretty fast.
Also, you consider Firestorm a mid, right? She's ripped him over too. Actually come to think of it, the only non-Diana high level characters I can recall her fighting are Firestorm (Cheetah won), Flash (Cheetah won), and Superman (Cheetah won). And with Wonder Woman, Diana often has trouble even tagging her, even though Diana's tagged the Flash and Zoom (Cheetah being not as-fast, but more agile than those two).
So either she's the luckiest low herald ever, or her performance record is on the level of a mid.
Well, duh. That just indicates we shouldn't take your opinions seriously.
Just to be clear, I treat most of your opinions on these characters very much like you probably treat h1a8's comments.
There's a huge disconnect between some opinions here and the shown performance.
So just to lay it out- you consider all of that everyone else to be noticeably stronger than Superman, who does not stomp her?
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