The wally west one was just for me to see how biased the people on this site were, i noticed that people typically voted for mavel characters and wanted to see if they were biased enough to pick hulk.
Manhunter was just so i could laugh at carver....lol
so i have posted a total of 2 debate threads......
I have never seen you, you must not be a very good poster because i have never noticed you, i have more than a thousand posts and have debated in so many threads and i have gone through so many battle threads, i have never seen you, ever.
This particular Hulk is something a little different than your average Hulk for one. All of his feats and stats are that much greater. None of these guys on average are his peer considering what Pak lead the reader up to in those final books of his Hulk career. He by no means is slow.
Do I really need scans for something that you already know and have already seen? His speed is showcased when he and Betty jumped at each other. That was a strength feat, that turned into a speed feat, and a durability feat in one. i am referring to the destruction that was caused by their in air collision. Nothing was stated in hard facts, but logic dictates, that in order for two character of his approximate size, and weight to cause the destruction by colliding into each other, that they had to be moving very fast. They didn't just kill one planet, but a moon, and perhaps another planet suffered from the impact.
The Hulk has also fought through more than one time stop, so as crazy, or stupid as it may seem, he has the ability to wrestle against time itself. He was also at a much weaker level when completing those feats. I could get the scans in his respect thread, but that takes more time than I have or care to spend searching through. ODG did a very thorough job on that respect thread, and trust me at least one of them are in there. I believe Savage Hulk was able to complete the first feat, and then more recently he did it again.
The Hulk has also always been able to hit energy beings, so actually hitting Captain Atom should work if we go back see that the Hulk has this ability. You can ask for the scans, but they are in his respect section. if I have time later i will try to compile them. However this is WB Hulk.
I can't agree with the traveling back in time thing, because there are diverging fictitious opinions on how it would actually work. Captain Atom may go back, and stop banner from ever becoming the Hulk, but it may not be the Banner of that exact time line, it could be one from a divergent one. In other word, there is no solid scientific proof to prove anything, because no one has been able to actually time travel. It's almost like asking someone what death is like after they have been dead for days. You will never know because no one has been dead that long, and come back.
Anyways, As far as i am concerned that could be a self BFR, if it does not effect the present day WB Hulk, or it may, and Captain Atom would win because WB Hulk would disappear. This topic is too uncertain to really say anything for certain other than who knows.