You haven't provided anything on Surfer's side [and you never will, and we both know it] to be even a drop in the ocean as far as Superman's energy absorbtion/control is concerned against Surfer's draining his opponents. In fact, you keep spouting 'his resistance is inconsistent' without knowing shit about how it is, since you don't even read Superman comics.
The sooner you drop this 'Surfer can drain him', the sooner you'll be better. Because this will take an unfortunate turn of events when it will be insisted on that Superman can drain Surfer.
Please, show me Surfer scanning an opponent he has never met's DNA, understanding a weakness he doesn't even know to search for, then recreating that highly-complex element that he has never encountered...mid-fight. The same element that a matter-transmutator of the highest order [Firestorm] had to take time, while sitting on a table, while KNOWING OF ITS EXISTENCE, and KNOWING ITS MAKE-UP, in order to replicate it, in multiple attempts.
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Because he lets him know that he's both willing and able to do it, hence it's in character.
You're asking about why he didn't turn Ben Grim human, the plot absolutely is an explanation.
No him not using it shows that it didn't come to that nothing more.
Now you're asking for proof a negative. It's your claim that Krosakis had Glad's weakness, where was this in anyway suggested? He didn't become stomian, h just absorbed Glad's energy.
He was blasting Hulk to revert him in one encounter, that's not draining.
What do you mean, after what scene?
Are you familiar with the issue in question? I'm pretty sure it opens talking about Lunatik's evolutionary abilities.
Diana would be his hardest fight imo due to skill, the bracelets, lasso and strength. The rest of the people, Surfer could get a clean sweep if he actually tried. He could wrap majority of these people in adamantium and they wouldn't be able to do a thing against it afterwards.
Hey were we supposed to have a BZ where weakness exploitation was off the table as a rule, you refused to participate when you realized you were going to lose lol.
Surfer can drain his opponents from a distance, Supes can't as far as I know. What's more, I'm not sticking to energy absorption as THE way for Surfer to win so I don't know why you're so hung up on it.
You're trying to make it sound like some long, drawn out complicated process for Surfer to use Supes's weaknesses against him and that's simply not the case.
You're a higher caliber of debater than Abhi by a fair share, I would actually feel the need to gather a good amount of scans and such if I were to debate you so it would take a while because my library is LONG gone lol. If you honestly want to have a Supes vs Surfer BZ in the future then we absolutely, but it'll actually take me a while to get ready for such a thing.
I was asking because I took a few days off from work at the end of the week.
Oh well, maybe in the future.
Anyhow, maybe this topic should get back to other stuff, like Surfer vs Captain Marvel or whatnot. Or Wonder Woman. There's only so much it can be talked about creating kryptonite.
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Ah, yeah see my scan library is a distant memory due to an unfortunate incident involving a 44oz mountain dew and my external harddrive that I won't go into right now lol. But yes, we can totally have such a thing in the future if I can figure out how to reacquire all of my comics. Or we might be able to have one sooner if you want to have something like a "partners match" with me and someone like Ambient against you and someone else like abhi.
I lost all of my Superman respect threads [i.e. everything since 1986 - 2015ish] due to the 'ransom virus' which crypted all of my files [included .docx where I had documented everything + scans folder], so I had to wipe all my hardware out.
Suffice to say, it was maddening.
Maybe abhi wants to debate ambient, but I'm not into the tag-teams, lol.
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Hulk drained energy that had enough power to kill every living being on the planet (super humans, Skyfathers, etc...) and Surfer was still able to drain him. Don't understand the point of those scans.
The people pretending Surfer has a better than 3/10 shot at best are hilarious delusional Marvel partisans, exclusively. Superman can oneshot KO Surfer at will with any one of his conventional standard powers and tactics, as he has to people on a apr with and far above Surfer, but Surfer gonna do shit he does less than 30% of the time off the bat because... lol, delusion.
Mine didn't have a timer. It had a .html page in every folder, linking me to instructions on how I can recover my file. I'd be able to tell you the exact one if I could remember the extension all of the crypted files were put in, but I forgot.
It was something very similar, either way.
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