Originally posted by Surtur
I tuned most of his posts out so it didn't really bother me.
Wow. Pinning this really DID make a difference.
Don't think I've EVER seen you post in this thread till now, Surt.
Kinda remarkable to me that Riv is in the thoughts of so many posters who claim not to care about him. Not lost on me, either, that some of the people commenting about his ban are people who have ban records of their own. But I know that some of the people here have had contact with each other from other social media, so maybe some history there would explain portions of what I'm seeing. My interest is piqued, admittedly, over the claim Riv was a moderator.
I'm sorry he won't be available to ask any questions about that till September. Might be interesting to know what happened there.
CGP Grey. Americapox.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JEYh5WACqEk
Whole presentation is great, Grey is one of the best online presenters I've ever come across, but the 4:19 mark onward is what linked to the SOC "Spanish Influenza" thought that came to me a while ago.
4:39 spells it out abundantly clearly.
Relevant text regarding the 1917/1918 bug:
In late 1917, military pathologists reported the onset of a new disease with high mortality that they later recognized as the flu. The overcrowded camp and hospital — which treated thousands of victims of chemical attacks and other casualties of war — was an ideal site for the spreading of a respiratory virus; 100,000 soldiers were in transit every day. It also was home to a live piggery and poultry were regularly brought in for food supplies from surrounding villages. Oxford and his team postulated that a significant precursor virus, harbored in birds, mutated so it could migrate to pigs that were kept near the front.
(Above text info is from Wikipedia.)
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Wow. Pinning this really DID make a difference.
Don't think I've EVER seen you post in this thread till now, Surt.Kinda remarkable to me that Riv is in the thoughts of so many posters who claim not to care about him. Not lost on me, either, that some of the people commenting about his ban are people who have ban records of their own. But I know that some of the people here have had contact with each other from other social media, so maybe some history there would explain portions of what I'm seeing. My interest is piqued, admittedly, over the claim Riv was a moderator.
I'm sorry he won't be available to ask any questions about that till September. Might be interesting to know what happened there.
I'll admit I had some issues with him a few years ago lol. Back when I used to debate more in the comics forum. And he did block me for a long time. Then he took me off block for some reason(I never asked why). From then on we were cordial with each other.
I don't have the issues with him that others seem to have. Perhaps it's cuz I shit post too lol, but in a different way. I'm not gonna knock his methods.
Stream of Consciousness (SOC), relating to Spanish Influenza and topics discussed recently:
Censorship, the role of it in characterizing the 2-part 1918 pandemic as Spanish.
And perhaps even why it spread as it did?
Information that might have shed light on the exact nature of the problem, it's true depth and breadth (widespreadedness), and, thus, potentially, how to combat it, were suppressed.
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How much more connected the world of 1917/1918 must have been than I previously thought, to have strongly affected even island and arctic communities.
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CGP Grey is good, even GREAT overall, but, is he one HUNDRED percent accurate? For instance, if his premise that smallpox comes from cows is correct, and that diseases in animals are no big deal to the animals that inadvertently spread them to us, how is it that smallpox's cure was derived from cowpox, a cow-caught illness that was very MILD for milk maids/etcetera to overcome?
CGP Grey. Animal domestication.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wOmjnioNulo
(Grey's follow up video to Americapox.)
Originally posted by bluewaterriderCensorship, the role of it in characterizing the 2-part 1918 pandemic as Spanish.
"To maintain morale, wartime censors minimized early reports of illness and mortality in Germany, the United Kingdom, France, and the United States.. Papers were free to report the epidemic's effects in neutral Spain (such as the grave illness of King Alfonso XIII). This created a false impression of Spain as especially hard hit, thereby giving rise to the pandemic's nickname, "Spanish flu" ..."
(From Wikipedia.)
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Stream of Consciousness (SOC), relating to Spanish Influenza and topics discussed recently:Censorship, the role of it in characterizing the 2-part 1918 pandemic as Spanish.
And perhaps even why it spread as it did?Information that might have shed light on the exact nature of the problem, it's true depth and breadth (widespreadedness), and, thus, potentially, how to combat it, were suppressed.
"This huge death toll was caused by an extremely high infection rate of up to 50% and the extreme severity of the symptoms, suspected to be caused by cytokine storms. Symptoms in 1918 were so unusual that initially influenza was misdiagnosed as dengue, cholera, or typhoid. One observer wrote, "One of the most striking of the complications was hemorrhage from mucous membranes, especially from the nose, stomach, and intestine. Bleeding from the ears and petechial hemorrhages in the skin also occurred". The majority of deaths were from bacterial pneumonia, a common secondary infection associated with influenza. The virus also killed people directly, by causing massive hemorrhages and edema in the lung ..."
(Text info here is also from Wikipedia.)
Vicarious but bitterly sobering reminder that some things actually punish the human inclination to come together to reach solutions, respect elders, learn from one another, care for the sick and dying, and honor the dead.
And that in such special cases, barriers to human interaction can actually save lives, till the true problem can be waited out, or identified concretely and eliminated. The so-called "Spanish" Flu was just such a case.
Worst affected was WesternSamoa, formerly German Samoa, which had been occupied by New Zealand in 1914. 90% of the population was infected; 30% of adult men, 22% of adult women and 10% of children died. By contrast, Governor John Martin Poyer prevented the flu from reaching AmericanSamoa by imposing a blockade. The disease spread fastest through the higher social classes among the indigenous peoples, because of the custom of gathering oral tradition from chiefs on their deathbeds; many community elders were infected through this process.
(Wikipedia)
Random interview that is random, but which I know I'll regret eventually if I don't
record it. Alex Valle:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?list=LLaFPJ5X-7llOkl6G0OcvDUQ&index=135&v=la3yGJSvubE
Game played awhile ago. Opponent set up in 4-move mate style.
Thwarted by my having my queen protect her husband. Play proceeds with significant testing and feints and threats and blocks and all that jazz, until I finally deliver a check to his King with my knight, forcing his King to move and give up castling ...
Nothing new under the sun ...
(Or, if it is, people usually discount in favor of the more famous original.)
Avengers Shawarma scene.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EYiZeszLosE
Interesting to note that, after I associated this scene with the famous Avengers 2012 scene, I come upon somebody describing shawarma as a burrito:
(I've never yet had shawarma, so I wouldn't really know, but, from many descriptions, a burrito seems to be what one is like.)
Of course, besides Green Lantern modeling "the Thinker", the scene recalls semi-famous onscreen Flash tropes, too:
Ice Cream! (Mention of Flash's metabolism.)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7dc46DPEymA
Reminded in hunt for related materials, how much potentially useful stuff is in the following thread, stuff not easily retrievable now otherwise:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=647688&pagenumber=1
For instance, where Barry aversely reacts to Kara's hand on his shoulder, that's not him expressing displeasure over boundary violation.
He likes Kara.
He doesn't mind the fact of the touch or the familiarity she's assuming with him at all. Rather it's a subtle nod that Kara is EXTREMELY physically strong, and, when distracted in her thoughts or excited by something, can forget to adjust it properly for normal people. That squeeze hurts!
It's played out in similar scenes throughout her series, so what may be ambiguous to some is clearer for regular viewers. AND those who happened to be privy to what the ORIGINAL unaired scene was to have looked like:
