Iw's forcefield has nothing to do with bending light, it's an energy type of it's own. And Magneto...well...science and comics, not always a good mixture, like i already said!
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ok we obviously r not gonna agree on IW FORCEFIELDS but neway bak to the topic -which is now- who can take shadowcat...
I know light users can
Telepaths more difficult when phased
Telekenetics can not harm her by thowing things at her, yes they can throw her even when phased bu how will that hurt her as she phases thru obstacles till she slows down. so stalemate or she wins there.
So apart from light, such as dazzler, users who can take her??????????????
tried that with thor once... and all it did was cause him some pain. once he broke out he was completely fine. there durability is so high that when they re-solitify the ground gives way. not thier atomic structure. i highly doubt this would happen. hulk would be fine, and very pissed off.
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When a telekinetic can grab her, he/she can manipulate her - snap her neck, tore her apart molecule by molecule, compress her to a slimy little ball of organic matter...
Btw...CAN a telekinetic grab her when she is phased? Logically he/she should, but as i explain below, logic is not exactly a reliable tool in the case of comics...
We already discussed this logic. It would definitely work in the real world, but it obviously does not in the comics. Every kind of energy that can be seen has an aspect of wavelengths that equal those of visible light, thus ARE light. If such an energy passes through her body (does all the time in the comics), following your (correct) logic, this light energy aspect of the beam would be stopped by her visible molecules, which would be burned away...but that never happens.
Another aspect would be, that EVERY form of electromagnetic energy SHOULD have an effect on her, since her powers do not make her matter less, but only cause it to pass the space between other particles. So one or the other energy quantum of such a beam would still affect her real existing body, phased or not...but that never happens.
Radioactivity is invisible and able to pass through our opaque bodies (as if we we were phasing) and still it affects us.
Summary: DON'T USE REAL WORLD LOGIC to explain why Kitty shouldn't be able to phase through light...it doesn't work. She can!
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oh yeah and i (tho i like never read comics) havnt herd of her going through any energy beams!!!
she can phase thru cyclops' but thts coz it's an ionic stream not EM.
and i no tht once she was running awy from magneto with cerebo's controls (metal) she phased herself and the controls to run thru a wall but magneto was still able to lift the controls out of her hands...
so until i see her going thru light or a part of the EM spectrum i'll stick with wat i think wannabe!!!
My logic is: It depends on the writer. If he/she says Kitty can phase through this or that...ok, may it be as long s it's not comic stated "unpassable" matter, which would be unlogic WITHIN the stated comic world itself.
Imo she can beat everyone she can reach, affect with her powers and cause damage...simple as that. The only discussible part is, whether she can do all that to the listed opponents.
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