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Goku vs Pre Crisis Superman
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illadelph
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You know, for all the bluster, this thread hasn't done to badly Bada...

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That's a fair view and explanation. Thanks for taking the time.

Guys, for the love of , take it easy on Leon.

Nope.

Anyways, Superman freezes Goku and tosses him into space smile

Illa, how's the Zero Tolerance policy coming along?

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You know, for all the bluster, this thread hasn't done to badly Bada...

I know. I'm actually getting some good insights on Goku and his powers.

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I know. I'm actually getting some good insights on Goku and his powers.

Fun series, I enjoyed watching them.

Of course, that was before I had demonoid.

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Nope.

Anyways, Superman freezes Goku and tosses him into space

Illa, how's the Zero Tolerance policy coming along?

So far so good. I've been called Hitler and some racial slurs I'd rather not rehash, but I've really got the forums best interests at heart. Anyone that knows me knows I'm a fair and personable cat. People just are hesitant and sometimes downright volatile to change.

I'm trying to enforce the KMC Equivalent of Brown vs. The Board of education. I expected some retaliation.

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Fun series, I enjoyed watching them.

Of course, that was before I had demonoid.

You said NO to the

. llagrok, don't ever go against the

again.

I have never been into DBZ much. I watched when it first came out. I'm glad some of the DBZ fans are posting. cool

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You said NO to the . llagrok, don't ever go against the again.

I have never been into DBZ much. I watched when it first came out. I'm glad some of the DBZ fans are posting.

You left the Mongooses, that was worse sad

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So far so good. I've been called Hitler and some racial slurs I'd rather not rehash, but I've really got the forums best interests at heart. Anyone that knows me knows I'm a fair and personable cat. People just are hesitant and sometimes downright volatile to change.

I'm trying to enforce the KMC Equivalent of Brown vs. The Board of education. I expected some retaliation.

I was kinda hoping you'd go Bastion on Leon's ass.

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You left the Mongooses, that was worse |

I had to back Marea, it's an Italian thing. Plus the thread was so tense and negative.

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i'm currently working on a system that would offer fair and unbias comparisons between dbz characters and comic characters

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i'm currently working on a system that would offer fair and unbias comparisons between dbz characters and comic characters

If successful and they work. I look foreward to it.

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If successful and they work. I look foreward to it.

i actually made a semi working system back when i first started watchin dbz back in HS so i have to revamp and update it now... there will have to be some compromise on both sides though

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i actually made a semi working system back when i first started watchin dbz back in HS so i have to revamp and update it now... there will have to be some compromise on both sides though

I'm looking forward to learning a bit more about DBZ.

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I'm looking forward to learning a bit more about DBZ.

if they remade the series in a serious tone it would actually be pretty good

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Something people often forget is that Goku can only maintain SSJ3 form for one minute

Besides, even against Post - Crisis Superman, I haven't seen any strength, speed, or durability feats that would put him in his class. Most arguments in Goku's favor go along the line of "Well character A did feat X, and character B is stronger than character A, and character C is stronger than character B, and Goku is stronger than character C, so Goku can do way more than feat X" which is rather flawed logic when you break it down. I could say how the Punisher beat Spider-man, Spider-man beat Firelord, Firelord can destroy planets, therefore the Punisher can destroy planets.

It doesn't work that way.

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Something people often forget is that Goku can only maintain SSJ3 form for one minute

Besides, even against Post - Crisis Superman, I haven't seen any strength, speed, or durability feats that would put him in his class. Most arguments in Goku's favor go along the line of "Well character A did feat X, and character B is stronger than character A, and character C is stronger than character B, and Goku is stronger than character C, so Goku can do way more than feat X" which is rather flawed logic when you break it down. I could say how the Punisher beat Spider-man, Spider-man beat Firelord, Firelord can destroy planets, therefore the Punisher can destroy planets.

It doesn't work that way.

which is why i'm working on a stat rating that would give us some clear answers

by the way he can hold ssj3 for atleast 30 mins and 4 for about 20

i'm also calculating transformation time

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If he can only hold that form for a minute then they must move beyond light speed. I've seen Goku in SSJ3 for 3 straight 30 minute episodes. DBZ's physics are completely different than DC's, and you can't impose them on the DBZ characters. The fight is on neutral ground where both character's native universe's physics work at optimum efficiency.

Supes gets all his tricks and Goku gets all of his.

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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Endless Mike
Something people often forget is that Goku can only maintain SSJ3 form for one minute

Besides, even against Post - Crisis Superman, I haven't seen any strength, speed, or durability feats that would put him in his class. Most arguments in Goku's favor go along the line of "Well character A did feat X, and character B is stronger than character A, and character C is stronger than character B, and Goku is stronger than character C, so Goku can do way more than feat X" which is rather flawed logic when you break it down. I could say how the Punisher beat Spider-man, Spider-man beat Firelord, Firelord can destroy planets, therefore the Punisher can destroy planets.

It doesn't work that way.

Uh, yes it does work that way. Goku beat up beings who can destroy planets, Solar Systems and Galaxies.

Goku >>>>>> Any Superman.

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Uh, yes it does work that way. Goku beat up beings who can destroy planets, Solar Systems and Galaxies.

Goku >>>>>> Any Superman.

PC Supes sneezed and destroyed solar systems.

I'm pretty sure that ahs to count for something.

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I've seen Goku maintain it for longer than that...

Also, the problem with your analogy, is that all DBZ fighters have basically the same powers, super strength, speed, ki blasts (whether they differ right now, is irrelevant), but they are on different levels.

The closest comparisons of comics are, when a comic character gets powered-up. Superman is sundipped vs Superman not sundipped, would be akin to comparing two Z fighters.
Not, Spider-Man or Firelord.

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PC Supes sneezed and destroyed solar systems.

I'm pretty sure that ahs to count for something.

That is because the 5th dimensional Imps magical dust was sprinkled on him.

Even humans were sneezing out windows from the Imp's dust.

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