Since they are runner's only feats, that is the level he is debated at.
As for you believing that Superman is equal to or greater than Surfer and/or Thanos, that's fine. That is a story for another thread. Most logical posters on here would disagree though. Those threads already exist, and I will gladly debate either surfer or Thanos against Superman if a newer thread were ever to be created, and to be honest, I would fancy my chances.
Just to check on the last point. If I were to use SS losing to Thanos as evidence of Thanos > Superman, that would be ABC logic, right? However, Superman defeating other herald or Thanos level beings would not be ABC logic?
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The writers see it the way you do too. IF you look at DC vs. Marvel, the writers clearly show that DS is above Thanos. THanos is getting his ass kicked by Wonder Woman, Captain Marvel and GL. WHile DS is laughting at SIlver Surfer, THor and storm. I'd wager that if you take a side by side comparison of feats, Superman, and THor both have feats that dwarf THanos's own without prep or tech aid.
I don't think most logical people are arguing that Thanos > Darkseid. As for Thanos losing to WW, CM or GLs, create the threads and you will find out what most sensible people think. Why is Storm in this? To be honest, I don't really see the reason behind this post of yours.
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To show what the writers think of relative power. Superman even says in his world, the dials go up to eleven. In JLA avengers, it talkes about how the heroes from DC are generally more powerful. Then you have WW breaking a construct, Easily beating an immortal herc. I'd say that Superman is actually closer to Thanos lvl if not exact.
So in the end it all boils down to DC being able to piss further than Marvel? Apologies for the language, but the essence remains true. No one here takes crossovers with anything less than a barrel of salt. If they did, the Superman vs Thor thread would have lasted about three posts. One to start the thread, one to post the scans, and one for the mod to close. Comparing DC:Marvel using DS:Thanos for example, is just flawed. There are no exact parallels. That is why we have this forum.
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Um, they weren't portrayed as exact equals. Are you reading the same book? Thanos looks quite weary where as DS is pretty much laughing. Try again. DS took no dmg. Thanos is getting rocked. he hits ww and she gets RIGHT back up.
DS was knocked on his knees (or at least seems that way). Thanos was knocked back a bit.
Plus, a punch from WW, and CM are more powerful than a puny blast from Surfer, and a lightning bolt from Storm.
Thanos pimp slapped/threw WW, of course she's going to get back up. And Thanos looks far from weary.
Plus, Darkseid hit Thor with his beams and Thor got up in the next page.
Your logic fails.
Plus, how can Darkseid be laughing, when he back is to the readers?
Also, a comic earlier Thanos was matching eyebeams with Darkseid. (please log in to view the image)
Oh wait! Thanos has a look on his face that makes it look like he's trying, and Darkseid is laughing!
Either way, if you're going to take Marvel vs DC into consideration, then Storm beat WW.
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um bran, the writers. you remember me saying what the writers portrayed. Storm vs wonder woman was the fans. DS calls thanos a pale imitation. and thanos looks far worse off than DS did. DS wasn't even fighting hand to hand. he was tossing casual bolts around and not even raising much of a fuss about it.
So, Storm has more fans than WW? That's even worse...
Because he calls him a pale imitation, that gives you the right to make up your own story?
Thanos just fought Lobo, got stabbed by BONE CLAW Wolverine ( ), and then fought his opponents.
Darkseid only had a tiny fight with Thanos.
What the hell does h2h have to do with anything?
Fact is, Thanos and Darkseid were equals in that comic. Whether you ignore it or not, it makes no difference.
Plus, Marvel/DC was a horrible piece of trash, and why you would bring it up in the first place, is beyond me...
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I brought it up to show what the writers think about DC characters in relation to marvel characters. And Storm is an xman buddy. Xmen are more popular than EVERYONE. Even superman. As I stated before, Superman has greater feats than Thanos ever had on his own.
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LOL if you think I think of DS loses are actually NoN PIS NON CIS moments. This forum is intelligent enough to see beyond that. And yes, The xmen are much more popular than superman. Look at thier movie sales and his last movie sales. even thier worst movie did better than his. they ahve been selling more comics than he has for years. It's just how it goes.
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Is the truth somehow supposed to be insulting for me to say? LMAO bran. You are so funny. you really think you insult me. HAH. If you only knew. And I'm not hyping up superman for his loses to look anything. Superman clearly just does have superior feats to thanos.
ds losing to superman isnt a low showing... superman always wins in the end, because he's superman... it isnt jobbing or a slight on superman, its just how his character has always been set up...
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), and then fought his opponents. 
