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Omega Vision
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Which fight are you referring to Carver?


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Carver is actually right this time.

The thing is that they never specify what "power" means. I've always taken it to mean he had 1000 times the Ki output.

Of course given how badly those two underestimated the Z-Fighters I'm not too sure I trust their assessment of relative powers.


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You see... this is why you shouldn't debate dbz against me... they did compare the two and supreme ki said that buu was thousands of time more powerful than frieza.

Do not dispute me on these things.
I just recently watched it.They did not compare buu to freiza.They said that the elder kais of the universe could one shot freiza.And buu beat them.Ok...they did compare them but made buu out to be much much much stronger.
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Because that punching feat is over a trillion tons of power to do what it did and not even touch the planet and again... can you show me any herald or trans replicating that feat without just saying "they can"?
ANd once again how can you calculate it to be a trillion tons?

Hulk lifted a mountain which weighed 150 trillion tons.


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I just recently watched it.They did not compare buu to freiza.They said that the elder kais of the universe could one shot freiza.And buu beat them.Ok...they did compare them but made buu out to be much much much stronger. ANd once again how can you calculate it to be a trillion tons?

Hulk lifted a mountain which weighed 150 trillion tons.


Because it created numerous of mountains which alone is in the trillions... it created an explosion which is also first think... next to impossible to do and if it is done, it would take almost and unlimited amount of force to accomplish this with the type of explosion that was showing in that scene.

By the way lifting feats and punching feats are two different things.


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Because it created numerous of mountains which alone is in the trillions... it created an explosion which is also first think... next to impossible to do and if it is done, it would take almost and unlimited amount of force to accomplish this with the type of explosion that was showing in that scene.

By the way lifting feats and punching feats are two different things.
It didn't create mountains.It forced other land up just like rock levitate when they power.And the rocks just....stayed there.


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Which fight was it where mountains were supposedly created? I can't recall anything like that.


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Carver is actually right this time.

The thing is that they never specify what "power" means. I've always taken it to mean he had 1000 times the Ki output.

Of course given how badly those two underestimated the Z-Fighters I'm not too sure I trust their assessment of relative powers.


I kind of disagree with this since it was never stated that it had anything to do with ki and I also thing that buu could punch frieza 1 time and make him explode into small chunks.


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Which fight was it where mountains were supposedly created? I can't recall anything like that.
It didn't happen.They just lifted rocks and for some odd reason they stayed there.


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I kind of disagree with this since it was never stated that it had anything to do with ki and I also thing that buu could punch frieza 1 time and make him explode into small chunks.

It was never stated what power meant, but generally powers in DBZ are measured as Ki output, emphasis on energy projection.


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I kind of disagree with this since it was never stated that it had anything to do with ki and I also thing that buu could punch frieza 1 time and make him explode into small chunks.
It most likely was Ki.

And yes buu could make freiza explode into chunks.Gohan did it.


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It didn't create mountains.It forced other land up just like rock levitate when they power.And the rocks just....stayed there.


Ok... I'm tired of people using dbz powering up as evidence of everything. Let me teach you something new. When dbz characters power up, yes... thing does levitate, once the power up is done, if anything else is in the air floating it has NOTHING to do with ki... the dbz fighters have reached the power that they jeed to be at which amps their strength, durability and speed... so that feat hd nothing to do with ki... it was a strength feat.

By the way... it did create small mountains and destroyed the landscape.

Omega, I posted the feat on the last page... its the first you tube vid.


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So they levitate things with physical strength is what your claiming?


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Lol they aren't mountains, Carver. They're a few hundred feet high at most, they're mesas. Small ones too.


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So would I be wrong in saying Broly life-wiped a galaxy at best?

Based on the statements of destruction, as well as the planet that was shown not to be destroyed, I'm guessing that Broly's "destroying a galaxy" feat is more colourful language than anything. After all, you do not need to completely obliterate something into trillions of peices to destroy it. The buildings on the planet shown were destroyed, though they were still there.

If I had to say it was anything, I'd say Broly has a relatively weak attack spread over an absolutely ridiculously massive area. After all, something that wipes out life while not harming buildings too much would be classified as weak in DBZ. The redeeming feature is that it's spread across an entire galaxy. It can be as big as you want, but the fact remains that the planet/buildings were not overly harmed by the attack, making it fairly weak, if huge.


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It was never stated what power meant, but generally powers in DBZ are measured as Ki output, emphasis on energy projection.


It depends... if someone is more powerful they are also more physically powerful than that person in dbz.


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So would I be wrong in saying Broly life-wiped a galaxy at best?

Based on the statements of destruction, as well as the planet that was shown not to be destroyed, I'm guessing that Broly's "destroying a galaxy" feat is more colourful language than anything. After all, you do not need to completely obliterate something into trillions of peices to destroy it. The buildings on the planet shown were destroyed, though they were still there.

If I had to say it was anything, I'd say Broly has a relatively weak attack spread over an absolutely ridiculously massive area. After all, something that wipes out life while not harming buildings too much would be classified as weak in DBZ. The redeeming feature is that it's spread across an entire galaxy. It can be as big as you want, but the fact remains that the planet/buildings were not overly harmed by the attack, making it fairly weak, if huge.


Well odin hit someone with a galaxy destroying blast and the planet that they we're fighting on suffered no damage so I guess odin isn't a galaxy buster and I feel safe to say that the planet broly was on was in a different galaxy.


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So they levitate things with physical strength is what your claiming?


Ok...first you need to show me something levitating while they are fighting and while showing this... please make sure they are not fighting at super speed since we have on panel showings of them fighting so fast that time stopped.


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So would I be wrong in saying Broly life-wiped a galaxy at best?

Based on the statements of destruction, as well as the planet that was shown not to be destroyed, I'm guessing that Broly's "destroying a galaxy" feat is more colourful language than anything. After all, you do not need to completely obliterate something into trillions of peices to destroy it. The buildings on the planet shown were destroyed, though they were still there.

If I had to say it was anything, I'd say Broly has a relatively weak attack spread over an absolutely ridiculously massive area. After all, something that wipes out life while not harming buildings too much would be classified as weak in DBZ. The redeeming feature is that it's spread across an entire galaxy. It can be as big as you want, but the fact remains that the planet/buildings were not overly harmed by the attack, making it fairly weak, if huge.
The buildings were but yeah i'd say this is right.But still galaxy wiping is still a pretty damn impressive feat correct?
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Well odin hit someone with a galaxy destroying blast and the planet that they we're fighting on suffered no damage so I guess odin isn't a galaxy buster and I feel safe to say that the planet broly was on was in a different galaxy.
But odin busted the enitre galaxy.

Of course you feel safe to say that.With no evidence.


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Ok...first you need to show me something levitating while they are fighting and while showing this... please make sure they are not fighting at super speed since we have on panel showings of them fighting so fast that time stopped.
No they have not moved so fast time has stopped.They even during the buu saga they were moving so fast hercule couldn't see them but he could still tell they were fighting.If they were truly fighting that fast it would never register to hercule who only has human reaction time.


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Lol they aren't mountains, Carver. They're a few hundred feet high at most, they're mesas. Small ones too.


Show me a high herald or trans doing a similar punch because honestly that punch should outright kill majority if not any high herald and I consider those to be small mountains.


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