and carvers Hulk wanking isn't clouding his judgment? To say Billy gets stomped by Hulk because Despero was able to do so is laughable especially since that version of him was a physical monster lifting and throwing the rock of eternity and koing herald level people like nothing
weaker versions of hulk have similar feats, it;s just that despero doesn't have his own series and the fact that he's a villain means that he has the track record you've mentioned (physical feats). when hulk was a "villain" he was tearing through characters over several issues, in contrast to beating them all before over hundreds of issues.
carver is putting all his chips in with hulk here, but i'm not gonna think he's totally crazy since world breaker is capable of everything hulk has ever done at least
Feats don't determine which Hulk is more powerful the writer's obvious point was that WB Hulk was beyond anything we've ever seen from the Hulk. If you can't understand the writer's intentions then debating is rather futile.
^ exactly, and most of green scar and worldbreaker's emotions were curtailing his power, yet nobody he faced could physically stop him exactly like he did in weaker versions spanning hundreds of issues
both later versions had to refrain from killing most of the people around them, and in WB's case, he had to hold back from smashing the planet itself. that ninja couldn't even walk without threatening several states
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Feats are what we use as proof, not writer's intentions. That is what we use in debates. You got it backwards. Using "intentions" would make debating futile:
1. WB Hulk was the most powerful.
2. Okay.
3. Debate over
Portrayals do. That's like saying Professor is stronger than WB Hulk since he really has no feats. You haven't made one legit point in the three years you've been here. Only thing is you run from a debate, consistently.
By your logic then professor Hulk is stronger than WB Hulk and so is WW Hulk since his feats are much greater. I mean even weakened planet Hulk is stronger. You have no logic you're just a feat debater it's no way to debate.
Sounds like you're asking me to compare a character's feats
Seriously, although it's Pak Hulk wanking, that was a feat in Hulk's favour. And I'm not arguing against that, I'm disagreeing that we use a writer's intention over feats.
We look at everything but never I repeat never do we dismiss the writer's intention and common sense in favor of oh yeah this guy has more feats therefore he's stronger. It's how characters match up against each other not who lifts the heaviest thing.
of coarse you don't use intention over feats exclusively, but in this case the writer is slapping you upside the head
worlbreaker hulk was x times more powerful than any legitimate hulk incarnation ever (war was tech amped, and it's arguable if he's even on par with WB)
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Dec 1st, 2010 03:42 AM
Not what I was saying.
