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Spider-Man, Venom, and Carnage vs. Hulk
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Dinalfos
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Originally posted by Sam Z
Dude, I CAN talk underwater, you can talk underwater but it doesn't mean i don't need to breathe at all. Hulk might learnt to survive for along time even without O2 but he STILL NEEDS to breathe.



Nope, not necessarily. Take a look at one of his fights with Namor. He adapted to the circumstances, allowing him to breathe underwater and causing his skin to turn blue.

For the record, Hulk owned Namor in that fight wink

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Man, whatever. It still was a fair fight to me.

So was the Mindless Hulk/Avengers fight.
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Ok, doesn't change a fact that this is one of the fights Namor won.

So circumstances don’t mean any thing like Namor fighting somebody underwater? I guess DevilHulk’s right about Hulk beating the Surfer in their last fight then.
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It is NOT overwhelming at all. Namor is still freaking powerfull on the ground, so he is capable of taking Hulk in some ocasions, it's a fact.

Namor underwater is an overwhelming advantage for any body who can’t swim or fight underwater like he can. Not hard to get.
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Namor is still freaking powerfull on the ground, so he is capable of taking Hulk in some ocasions, it's a fact.

Not when he’s dehydrated, he isn’t.
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Originally posted by Sam Z
Obviously if they were not fighting like an idiots everything would've worked, but they were fighting like an idiots and it's a fact as well, that's why i call that fight a PIS. Noone of the fighters were doing their best except for Hulk. You can ask anyone who reads IM, Namor, WM etc. That's not how they fight.

I've seen how they fight. Hercules, Namor, and even Wonder Man are all very skilled. However, all they could do there was punch, fly, grapple, and blast. None of that worked.

Obviously Wonder Man couldn’t use his skill here for any thing other than punching, because Hulk could just throw him off every time he grabbed him. Same went for Hercules. Namor tried to take him out from behind and use that to his advantage, but was then backhanded instantly after his attack. All Iron Man could do was blast him and not only did it have no effect, but it nearly got him killed.

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So now you are saying that symbiotes work like virus?What the f**k? Only further proof that you don't know what are you talking about and that you have no proofs to support your claim that he can resist them.

Who said the spikes were a virus in the first place? And considering the concepts of both are the same, I’d say it’s more proof that he can resist them than you’ve brought that they’d take him over.
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NOT SIMILLAR AT ALL, you only want them to be simillar because it helps your argument, if you'll keep claiming that, i'll create another pointless thread where i will ask this question.

Go right ahead if you wish. I consider two beings that take over a host to be very similar. You bring up “mutual bonding” as if Hulk’s just going to let it happen. He won’t let such a thing occur if he doesn’t want it to.

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1. And again, it won't do a thing, not instantly, nor after long time of using it, so this is pointless.
2. Tendrils would win the fight as i have not only explained but proved as well. And they'll do it before Hulk'll be able to perform his ground-slam move. And enough of the spikes argument already, you can't prove it so repeating it all the time won't help.

1. It’ll keep them away.
2. All you “proved” was that symbiotes will take over Hulk just because they took over Surfer. Not gonna cut it. Show me the symbiotes taking over Hulk and we’ll get somewhere.
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I'd actually say that even one of these attack would do the job. Two combined increase chances, don't you think so?

Of course two would have more chances than one. I just don’t see the duo pulling it off.

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So was the Mindless Hulk/Avengers fight.

I never said it wasn’t fair. I said it was PIS because IN MY OPINION noone from the team was fighting at his best.
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So circumstances don’t mean any thing like Namor fighting somebody underwater? I guess DevilHulk’s right about Hulk beating the Surfer in their last fight then.

Again, Namor doesn’t need to be as strong and durable as Hulk for me to be sure that team of superheroes with simillar strength and speed greater than Hulk’s would win. Holding his own and pulling a win is already enough.
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Namor underwater is an overwhelming advantage for any body who can’t swim or fight underwater like he can. Not hard to get.

Not when it comes to someone who can hold his breath for weeks(months), unless you think that batkick was supposed to make him breathe again. I mean lack of O2 wasn't supposed to bother Hulk at all. So it is not a disadvantage.
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Not when he’s dehydrated, he isn’t.
Yes, if he has a team of superheroes on his side and if he wasn’t fighting like an idiot like he did in that fight.
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I've seen how they fight. Hercules, Namor, and even Wonder Man are all very skilled. However, all they could do there was punch, fly, grapple, and blast. None of that worked.
Correction. All they could THINK of doing was grappling and charging like amatures.
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Obviously Wonder Man couldn’t use his skill here for any thing other than punching, because Hulk could just throw him off every time he grabbed him. Same went for Hercules. Namor tried to take him out from behind and use that to his advantage, but was then backhanded instantly after his attack. All Iron Man could do was blast him and not only did it have no effect, but it nearly got him killed.
You can find my comments on this fight on “what do you think of this fight" thread.

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Who said the spikes were a virus in the first place? And considering the concepts of both are the same, I’d say it’s more proof that he can resist them than you’ve brought that they’d take him over.
I brought proofs of symbiots taking over being that is more powerfull than Hulk, you brought proofs of Hulk resisting spikes that have nothing to do with the symbiotes and do not have anything incommon with them.
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Go right ahead if you wish. I consider two beings that take over a host to be very similar. You bring up “mutual bonding” as if Hulk’s just going to let it happen. He won’t let such a thing occur if he doesn’t want it to.
Why? Because you say so? Sorry but they have nothing incommon with two alien symbiots. If you can prove otherwise, be my guest. But remember that “taking over” somebody doesn’t proves it.
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1. It’ll keep them away.
2. All you “proved” was that symbiotes will take over Hulk just because they took over Surfer. Not gonna cut it. Show me the symbiotes taking over Hulk and we’ll get somewhere.


1.And it is as “usefull” as simply running away. Won’t work in vs forum.
2. All you “proved” was Hulk resisting spikes that have nothing to do with this case. I proved that Hulk is not quick enough to avoid tendrils that (I proved that too) move faster than bullets. And taking him over and suffocating him are two arguments you yet have to disprove.
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Of course two would have more chances than one. I just don’t see the duo pulling it off.
It’s not “duo”. You forgot that Spider-man is there too!stick out tongue


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Nope, not necessarily. Take a look at one of his fights with Namor. He adapted to the circumstances, allowing him to breathe underwater and causing his skin to turn blue.

May be he was dying, that's why he turned blue. big grin

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For the record, Hulk owned Namor in that fight wink
Never doubted it wink


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Euh I give you credit you bring good arguments, still he can survive in space, he adapts (sorry to bring this up all the time lol).
lol don’t worry, I’m getting used to repeating same things, ask Accel.
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silver surfer>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>hulk in a fight.
But the surfer has only one personality, hulk got a lot inside of him who want to take control.
Good point, but Venom had an experience of dealing with multiple personalities before. Madness book issue #2 wink


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Originally posted by Accel
Show me the symbiotes taking over Hulk and we’ll get somewhere.
well if it's any consolation marvel HAS shown the venom symbiote to take over hulk in a what if issue.... considering the personalities and powersets may be the same it COULD stand as a reasonable testement to said occurance possibly taking place.

as a side note, not only did the symbiote take over hulk, but hulk liked it.


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