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Living Tribunal versus Spectre merged with the Source
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Juntai
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Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
But he still got spank.
Look what Adam and the Infinity Gauntlet did to Eternity ...

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And again ...

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It seems that busting the embodiment of the entire universe is getting to become a hobby.

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Did he have trouble with the power of a universe?
So Adam with the Gauntlet >> Spectre?
Hm ...

You know damn well DOV hostless Spectre is nowhere near the power of Corrigan and The Wrath merged with the power of creation itself.

And you know Warlock beating Eternity back, is nothing like fighting Spectre with the Source.

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Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Again ...
Marvel without TOAA <<<< DC without Presence?
Because appearently DC has a lot of "God"-aspect and powered by God character ... No?
Lucifer Michael >> LT
Michael >> LT
Spectre Logoz >> LT
Spectre Source >> LT
Yahweh >> LT
Source >> LT
Elaine Michael >> LT

And all those above are actually weaker than the Presence itself ... Hm ...

Ah but I was expecting someone to clear this up for me ...

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Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Again ...
Marvel without TOAA <<<< DC without Presence?
Because appearently DC has a lot of "God"-aspect and powered by God character ... No?
Lucifer Michael >> LT
Michael >> LT
Spectre Logoz >> LT
Spectre Source >> LT
Yahweh >> LT
Source >> LT
Elaine Michael >> LT

And all those above are actually weaker than the Presence itself ... Hm ...

Well... when you put it like that...

Also, I think it has to do with all the items in Marvel, that levels the playing field... otherwise... yes... DC would>>Marvel in a way...

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Well... when you put it like that...

Also, I think it has to do with all the items in Marvel, that levels the playing field... otherwise... yes... DC would>>Marvel in a way...

All the items?
--Only one surpasses the Living tribunal, and that's the Heart.

Yet, DC characters havent done more on panel, they simply are more powerful because their a part of God. In a way or an other?

Mar 12th, 2007 01:05 AM

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All the items?
--Only one surpasses the Living tribunal, and that's the Heart.

Yet, DC characters havent done more on panel, they simply are moe powerful because their a part of God. In a way or an other.

And that one is hundreds of times more powerful than LT...

Also, PR-Beyonder...

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Assuming they are even in terms of power in this thread, which I fully believe is not the case.... but even so...

Tribunal's fighting skills is 1 according to Marvel's system.

Where would you rank the Wrath of God, who kills across infinite planes of reality each day in terms of fighting skill?

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Mar 12th, 2007 01:09 AM

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Originally posted by bigbran
And that one is hundreds of times more powerful than LT...

Also, PR-Beyonder...

PR-Beyonder does not count, that's why he's retconned, his previous actions and statements are no longer valid in canon, I thought you knew that.
So if I'd to make a conter-part list of Marvel and DC, DC would've a lot of more powerful character that the Marvel once cannot even come close to, hm, an hour ago I thought this forum really was Marvel biased, perhaps I was wrong.

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Assuming they are even in terms of power in this thread, which I fully believe is not the case.... but even so...

Tribunal's fighting skills is 1 according to Marvel's system.

Where would you rank the Wrath of God, who kills across infinite planes of reality each day in terms of fighting skill?

Below Batman of course!

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Assuming they are even in terms of power in this thread, which I fully believe is not the case.... but even so...

Tribunal's fighting skills is 1 according to Marvel's system.

Where would you rank the Wrath of God, who kills across infinite planes of reality each day in terms of fighting skill?

Fighting skills arent a factor really, even the celestial's can lift at the CL 5000 -class, and they have to fighting skills, mainly because they don't need any, they never use their muscles, but their mind.
With it they can grasp abstract things and tear them apart.

Mar 12th, 2007 01:13 AM

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I mean Lucifer with Michael's power havent really done more on panel than the Ultimate Nullifier, it did destroy and recreate the Multiverse.
So either:
DC >> Marvel
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TOAA >> Presence

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Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Fighting skills arent a factor really, even the celestial's can lift at the CL 5000 -class, and they have to fighting skills, mainly because they don't need any, they never use their muscles, but their mind.
With it they can grasp abstract things and tear them apart.

Of course it would. Spectre isn't on a lesser level. He's not something LT could snap away. It would become a fight, and Spectre fights issue to issue, while Tribunal prints his cheeks in his chair. And that's assuming they are on equal footing powerwise, but given the versions of the characters, that doesn't seem to be leading towards the Tribunal either.

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Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
I mean Lucifer with Michael's power havent really done more on panel than the Ultimate Nullifier, it did destroy and recreate the Multiverse.
So either:
DC >> Marvel
or
TOAA >> Presence

Creating, and recreating something that was already are two very different things.
But that inrepretation of Lucifer and Micheal is not part of DC comics. Vertigo is not canon.

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Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
PR-Beyonder does not count, that's why he's retconned, his previous actions and statements are no longer valid in canon, I thought you knew that.
So if I'd to make a conter-part list of Marvel and DC, DC would've a lot of more powerful character that the Marvel once cannot even come close to, hm, an hour ago I thought this forum really was Marvel biased, perhaps I was wrong.

Oh please, I'm one of the biggest Marvel fans on this site... I just don't let my viewpoint bias my opinions...
Also, just because of ones opinion, that completely sways all the opinions of Hulk single-handidly defeating the enitire JLA, JSA, etc...
Galactus destroying everything in DC...

Hmm... maybe it's bias itself that has swayed your opinion...

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Creating, and recreating something that was already are two very different things.
But that inrepretation of Lucifer and Micheal is not part of DC comics. Vertigo is not canon.

That's like saying Image is non-canon...
The powers in Vertigo are canon, the story just doesn't follow DC...

Also, Micheal created a universe (multiverse, depending on who you ask) out of nothingness...

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That's like saying Image is non-canon...
The powers in Vertigo are canon, the story just doesn't follow DC...

Also, Micheal created a universe (multiverse, depending on who you ask) out of nothingness...

Image actually is a comic verse though, Vertigo isn't. It's just random stories were writers aren't bound by rules or continuity.

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Image actually is a comic verse though, Vertigo isn't. It's just random stories were writers aren't bound by rules or continuity.

The Spawn stories don't follow the Savage Dragon stories...

It seems quite comparible actually.

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that is because vertigo is a multiverse of it own just like DCAU they have their own cannon story which is seperate from mainline dc.

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The Spawn stories don't follow the Savage Dragon stories...

It seems quite comparible actually.

Vertigo is not a reality, it's just an imprint. It is only considered an imprint where authors have no boundaries or continuity to follow.

If it were an ongoign continuity, they would have already conflicted many times. Constantine's whole story revovles around hell.
Hell doesn't exist as of the last couple stories in Lucifer.

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Originally posted by Juntai
Vertigo is not a reality, it's just an imprint. It is only considered an imprint where authors have no boundaries or continuity to follow.

If it were an ongoign continuity, they would have already conflicted many times. Constantine's whole story revovles around hell.
Hell doesn't exist as of the last couple stories in Lucifer.

Vertigo is a reality. But what your missing is that each story in vertigo is it's own universe. they dont' have to follow the same rules. but at the same time, the writers have the liberty of using certain characters and even vertigo back story. Thus connecting the vertigo imprint into one multiverse. Hell there was multiple multiverses in the lucifer story alone, so vertigo could be considered, a mega verse if you will.

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i think vertigo is sometimes canical things like preacher are not but other things are since lucifer morningstar mentions characters like the source and spectre thus he knows about the regular DC universe

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PC Superman wins.

Anti-Living Tribunal Vision and Anti-Wrath of God Fart.

I mean...if his snot can destroy solar systems, imagine what his gas must be like.

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